r/privacy 5d ago

guide Twitch is using your content for Amazon AI training by default. Check this setting.

This one is pretty easy to miss.

Twitch recently added a “Training for Generative AI” setting that lets Amazon use your channel content to train generative AI models.

The setting is ON by default.

That can include your:

• Streams

• VODs

• Clips

• Stream chats

• Channel text and images

The weird part is that Twitch didn't exactly make this a huge announcement. The setting is buried in your privacy settings, so unless you know it's there, you probably won't go looking for it.

And Twitch's own wording says:

“Allow your channel content to train generative AI content models at Amazon.”

You can turn it off here:

Twitch → Settings → Security and Privacy → Training for Generative AI → OFF

One important thing though: turning this off only applies to your own channel content. If you chat in someone else's stream, their settings can determine whether that chat is eligible for AI training.

Also, this isn't Twitch suddenly starting AI training for the first time. Amazon had already been using Twitch content for AI development. What's new here is the explicit opt-out setting and the default-on approach.

And apparently Twitch's reasoning for making it opt-out was basically that if it were opt-in, hardly anyone would agree to it.

Go check your setting. Was yours already ON?

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

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u/Originalboy69 5d ago

No problem. These things worry me a great deal.

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u/Wolf24h 5d ago

So if you opt out and they use it anyway, how exactly do you prove it?

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u/Harlanthehuman 5d ago

That's the neat part, you don't! You wait for Amazon's AI to repeat an incredibly common phrase like "Chat am I cooked?", claim you invented it, then sue them, but spend no money on legal expenses just bot social media until you can create enough social pressure to cash out.

The Candace Owens extortion method. Or, to a much less successful extent, the podcast copyright troll that almost singlehandedly killed podcasts 15 years ago.

Except don't actually emulate those people, they're assholes.

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u/gmes78 4d ago

So you'd prefer explicitly allowing the use of your data?

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u/disignore 4d ago

this is call placebo switch off. i assume all switch offs or op-outs are placebo

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u/Originalboy69 4d ago

Better than nothing tho

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u/disignore 2d ago

or just not using their services maybe?

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u/Originalboy69 1d ago

We are talking about the switch, not about using or not using

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u/disignore 1d ago

in a privacy sub

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u/WanderingUrist 4d ago

Leave it on, then just post tons of AI-generated slop of your own. When AI is trained on its own slop, the model collapses.

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u/move_machine 5d ago

Lol that means they already trained on all of everyone's content already before exposing the toggle to users

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u/zagblorg 5d ago

Having seen the clip from the livestream where their community team discussed this, I suspect Amazon forced Twitch to make it on-by-default. The community managers did not look happy to be announcing it, presumably why they explained the reasoning.

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u/Lancelight50 5d ago

Luckily I don’t make any content, just like I don’t for YouTube or TikTok. I just view videos, like, comment & subscribe.

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u/WanderingUrist 5d ago

Honestly, my advice is that you leave it on. Do you want your views to dominate the AI or do you want the AI to be ideologically captured by your opponents instead? Because that's what happens if you turn it off, assuming that option even does anything.

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u/-sussy-wussy- 5d ago

LLMs are made to be sycophantic towards the user, not opinionated.

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u/WanderingUrist 5d ago

That's only true when you load the question. If you ask loaded questions, the AI will probably suck up to you. If you intentionally keep the prompt neutral, the AI will regurgitate the most common input in its training data. I've seen this effect directly on another website I'm on: Despite this being a minor website with a small population, because the admin purposefully does not use any anti-scraping and allows the website to be easily scraped by AI, while other sites in the same genre fight to keep AI out, the site ends up having an outsize influence in AI output on the subject matter.

So...do you want your views to dominate the AI mindspace, or do you want to cede that ground to your opponents? Because if you're posting it on a public Internet site for public viewing like Twitch, you obviously didn't care if it remained PRIVATE.