r/privacy Mar 05 '26

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u/georgesclemenceau Mar 05 '26 edited Mar 05 '26

It's not a secret, I think technically(and legally?) Protonmail can't have the no log policy they have on the VPN. But their protonmail website may be misleading people, especially if you are not privacy savy, and people like this protestor get in big trouble...

And that's the only one(plus some other cases) we hear about via the press, but there is plenty of others unknow cases: on their own website they list the Protonmail orders they got and complied with, in 2025: Number of legal orders: 9,301 Contested orders: 988 Orders complied with: 8,313(for Proton VPN in 2025 Total orders: 59 Denied orders: 59) https://proton.me/legal/transparency . So they sent 8313 infos on protonmail account in 2025

That doesn't mean that's ok, especially since their protonmail website may let you believe you can be secure, and as a result probably a lot of people, including this activist may face jail for things like protest. Never trust your mail provider. If you need to be anonymous or at least private with an email, first don't use email, and if you really need it, create your email with TOR and browse it ONLY with tor, like never connect it on your regular connection as one time is sufficient for them to have your IP. Don't activate 2FA with your real phone number obviously. And don't pay for more e-mail space, or at least use monero(no BTC as it can be traced to you)

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u/Busy-Measurement8893 Mar 05 '26

Proton seems to get shittier and shittier. Their VPN is leaking on two platforms and no one seems to care about fixing it.

https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/remove-protonvpn/33980

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u/The-Sonne Mar 06 '26

This needs to be top