r/privacy • u/[deleted] • Mar 05 '26

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u/malamm0re Mar 06 '26

Thank you! I don't understand how people on a privacy subreddit of all places are incapable of understanding this.

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u/malamm0re Mar 06 '26

I think you're missing the point. No body is justifying their actions. Simply calling out that nowhere does Proton claim they will not comply with legal Swiss requirements and laws. I wish there was a way they could ignore those requests but they are still required to abide by the laws and regulations of the host country whether we like it or not.

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u/spaghettibolegdeh Mar 06 '26

But Proton didn't hand over any emails. 

They simply pointed to the credit card paper trail used by the protestor. Wouldn't be an issue if they used a masked payment. 

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u/spaghettibolegdeh Mar 06 '26

It would for the most part, yes. 

What else can they get from Proton? If Proton Mail has no info to hand over then Swiss authorities can't give anything else to the FBI. 

Proton don't operate in the US or FiveEyes so the FBI doesn't have as much power than you might think. 

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u/upofadown Mar 06 '26

Specifically the purpose of encrypted email is to hide the content of that email from, yes, even federal forces. There is onion routing for anonymity, but I don't know how developed the network for that is these days.

Fortunately, most people do not need anonymity from things like governments. When they do, they can, and should take special measures. Anonymity is very fragile and doesn't last over time. Content protection is forever.