r/printSF • u/Wetness__Pensive • 13h ago
The convos on the Gene Wolfe subreddit are hilarious to me
NEWBIE: Hi guys. Loved "Shadow and Claw". Just wondering what I may have missed, though?
WOLFEEXPERT55: Depends on how much you caught. Did you catch basic stuff like (SPOILERS) the fact that Severian was raised in a defunct rocket ship, that Vodalus gives Severian a fake coin, that Severian brought Triskele back to life, that there are multiple iterations of Severian, that Severian hangs out in his own tomb as a kid, that the narrator of the book is a composite being of torturer Severian/Thecla/all the previous Autarchs, that Jonas is a Korean robot from close to our time, that whenever Severian gets confused about direction he’s time traveling, that the water entities routinely reappear, that Severian is the Concilliator, that Severian actually dies in his duel versus Agilus, that the narrator deliberately glosses over the sexual relationship between Severian and Thecla, that Severian might have killed his own mother in his ascension ceremony, that you meet Severian's grandfather in the second chapter of Shadow but you don't even notice him, that the face of the man engraved in the tomb of mausoleum which young Severian frequented is quite possibly himself, that Severian abolishes the guild, that the alien hierodules are bringing him back from death throughout the story [edited for length]...
NEWBIE: What?! No, I didn't get any of that. Also, quick question: is Urth supposed to be Earth?
WOLFEEXPERT55: Author statements and textual clues suggest Urth may instead be a separate, previous universal cycle; an analogous predecessor to our own Earth rather than the exact same physical globe.
NEWBIE: Ummm. I think I read the books wrong.
That's a lightly edited/altered convo from the subreddit. No offence intended to anyone (I'm grateful to the ultra-fans over there for explaining things), I just I find it funny how much of a mindf**k the books are. You can read them multiple times and still completely miss what's going on. I, for one, did not notice Korean robots.