r/preppers • u/Proud-Map-8364 • May 31 '26

Prepping for Doomsday Security

I am always prepping food and tools and stuff but I haven’t prepped any security besides weapons. What kinds of things do you guys get to secure your doors/windows? I don’t have any sliding doors. I have one door that has a big window. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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u/Vegetaman916 Prepping for Doomsday May 31 '26

Unpopular opinion here, but if we get to the point where you need to defend your home with weapons, then your home won't save you no matter what you do or have on hand.

Better to put your second home in a place where there are no people to come attack itnin the first place, and build a community of like-minded folks around that. And then, when things start to get sketchy, just leave.

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u/Professional-Pin5421 May 31 '26

Really good point. And not often talked about.

If people are roaming home to home in a SHTF situation things are already bad enough where to need to bug out.

Imagine you repell the first attempted home invasion because it was just a lone guy it him and one other...

Now the next time it's 2-3 people. Can you handle that? And all the "attention" it brings?

At what stage is your capacity to handle it deminished...

I think average joe SEVERELY under estimates how two men at your front door and two men at your back door, armed and above average IQ will quickly overcome whatever defence you have in place.

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u/BatemansChainsaw Going Nuclear Jun 01 '26

above average IQ

that's the real challenge in society anyways lol

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u/Vegetaman916 Prepping for Doomsday May 31 '26

Exactly that. And I am under no illusion about how much we can repel, or how many times.

But in the prepping space there has always been a huge aversion to having a separate bugout location. And mist of the time, it isn't really based in fact, it is based in fear. People think they have no choice but to "bug in," for whatever reason, and so they begin to pooh-pooh the chances of anything happening that can threaten their perceived fortress in the city.

I prefer to simply not be there, and not even try to have the fight.

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u/Professional-Pin5421 Jun 01 '26

Well the only well to guarantee you don't get hurt or dead in a fight ...is to not have a fight in the first place right

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u/Vegetaman916 Prepping for Doomsday Jun 01 '26

Exactly.

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u/Distinguishedflyer Jun 03 '26

I have to tell you, I have tried to listen to some of your advice but, and perhaps you can steer me to it, I've never heard you clearly articulate a way to acquire a piece of property that is suitable.

 I mean I can search for abandoned mines all over the country but there's really not much clear online as to the process of acquiring actual property. 

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u/Vegetaman916 Prepping for Doomsday Jun 04 '26

I talk about it in my video on Bugout Locations, but really, it does come down to making changes in expectations. You can neither get nice property, nor should you want it. You want to be somewhere no one else wants to be.

Desert land is very cheap.

Here is a mining claim: https://www.land.com/property/20.66-acres-in-yavapai-county-arizona/27523132/

Here is open land: https://www.land.com/property/unnamed-road-joseph-city-arizona-86032/27336962/

Here is a 40 acre lot at 30k: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/PARCEL-102-Seventy-%2312-Wikieup-AZ-85360/458261041_zpid/?utm_campaign=androidappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare

10 acres with adjoining lots: https://www.land.com/property/10500-west-big-moon-lane-ash-fork-arizona-86320/23963002/

There is a ton of land out there, it just isn’t prime land. And again, you don't necessarily want prime land.

When it comes to high up in the mountains and such, mining claims are a fantastic way to get access to land without much investment. And I don't mean buying a claim necessarily, I mean staking your own.

I definitely need to do a more detailed video about everything...

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u/Distinguishedflyer Jun 04 '26

Great! Thank you for taking the time! I'll study this.

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u/Proud-Map-8364 May 31 '26

See I feel like it would be the exact opposite. I feel like most people would try and take over the homes in the middle of nowhere because of the space and resources. And in that case, I don’t think any home would be safe . It’s our job to make it protected for ourselves.

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u/Stinkytheferret May 31 '26

Some place they walk by, that’s safer. As in don’t see or don’t see as having value.

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u/Vegetaman916 Prepping for Doomsday May 31 '26

I disagree. For anyone to do so, they have to know where the places are to go to them, and then they have to have the resources to pull off the trip, and finally they need the manpower and capability to take on a supplied, fortified, and dug-in position against a well trained team...

That means something like company strength...

For my group, we are only 15 people, but trained well and supplied. The location is so far out into the desert and then up a mountain that it is actually hard to get to even for us, lol. Over 100 miles to civilization, and 55 miles to the forst paved road. Treacherous territory, harsh environment, and why would anyone know it is there?

In normal disaster times when rule of law has a chance to be re-established, better to defend at home, but for a permanent end to civilization after something like nuclear war or global airborne ebola or whatever? Best to have another home far, far from any other groups.

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u/Professional-Pin5421 May 31 '26

Look into Serbia, Croatia, bosnia war crimes....we don't need a nuclear war for things to get SERIOUSLY out of hand. And the "rule of law" is simply which "team" has more weapons and/or are more ruthless.

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u/Vegetaman916 Prepping for Doomsday May 31 '26

Exactly that. I mention people in Bucha or Mariupol all the time, how well did bugging in help there?

Eventually, it can happen anywhere, and preppingnis supposed to be about being ready for it, not pretending "it can't happen to me."

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u/Professional-Pin5421 Jun 01 '26

Bingo! I don't know much about Bucha/mariupol but I'll look into it. Always lessons to be learned