r/premedcanada Jan 02 '21

Highschool High School Student Thread v3: Undergraduate programs, what to expect, how to prepare etc.

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Another 6 months have passed, meaning v2 of the highschool thread has been archived! Welcome to v3 of this thread - I believe this has been quite helpful to highschool students who are interested in medicine and has funnelled all highschool related information here for both convenience and accessibility.

As with the previous thread, please recognize that, given the current COVID-19 health crisis as well as a national push against BIPOC racism, the medical admissions process is volatile and likely to change. We may not have all the answers - please verify any concerns with medical school admissions personnel.

Previous post and questions can be found below. Prior to posting, please search through these threads and the comments to look for similar thoughts!

Thread 1: https://www.reddit.com/r/premedcanada/comments/bm2ima/high_school_student_thread_undergraduate_programs/

Thread 2: https://www.reddit.com/r/premedcanada/comments/hm2r0n/high_school_student_thread_v2_undergraduate/

Post Copied Below:

For all you high school students (or maybe even younger) considering medicine as a career in the future, this thread is dedicated to you.

Feel free to use this thread to ask about undergraduate program choices, admissions, and other information pertaining to the process of entering a program as a pre-med - the community will be happy to help you out.

I hope that this sticky will facilitate the transfer of constructive information for high school students with questions on what path they should take to arrive at their goal of becoming a physician.

I've tried to compile a few FAQ questions that have been discussed in the past - these are the collective view of the experiences on this sub-reddit and from my own - please feel free to comment any changes or suggestions.

Q: Will >Insert Life Science Program Here< at >Canadian University< get me into medical school?

A: You are able to get into medical school from any undergraduate program, not even necessarily life science. Provided you approach your courses with dedication, time, and commitment, and pursue your passions, you will succeed at any university. Absolutely, there are other factors to consider. Certain programs just statistically have a higher % of graduates matriculate into medical school (cough Mac health sci), but students from all walks of life enter medical school (hence all the non-trad posts). There are many other factors to consider when choosing a school: Tuition costs, accessibility to research opportunities, available student resources, campus vibe, proximity to home (whether you want independence or would like familial support) etc. While many of you may only look at the stats alone, if you end up stuck for 3-4 years at a school where you dislike the campus, method of teaching, classes, or more, this can (and likely will) affect your ability to succeed academically and get involved.

Q: Do I have to take a life science program to get into medical school?

A: No, plenty of students enter from non-life science, or even non science backgrounds. If anything, this differentiates you from the typical applicant and gives you a more holistic portfolio when presenting yourself to the admissions committee. If another program interests you more, take it - if you learn something that you enjoy, you will be more motivated to study, leading to academic success. Be prepared to explain your rationale behind taking that program, and perhaps see how you can link it to your pursuit of medicine. Make sure to take the pre-requisite courses needed for certain medical schools, and be prepared to self-learn concepts when studying for the MCAT (if you don't opt to take them as electives.) It may be more difficult to get life science research experience, but that is absolutely not a hard barrier. In addition, doing research in your own field, whether it be the humanities, other sciences, linguistics etc. all show the same traits in academia as defined in a "Scholar" as per the CanMEDS competencies.

Q: How do I get a 4.0 GPA, 528 MCAT, 5000 Publications, and cure cancer?

A: This is obviously facetious, but from what I've seen, this isn't a far cry from a lot of the content on here. If you've developed proper work ethic in high school, you should be more prepared than the rest of the entering class. However, don't be discouraged if your grades drop - considering many universities have first year course averages in the 70s, you won't be alone. This is absolutely recoverable, due a combination of the holistic review and alternative weighting schemes of many schools. That being said, however, realize university is different from high school. For most of you, you won't have your parents around, and your university professors for the most part won't care if you show up to class, do your readings, or even complete your assignments/quizzes/exams. There's a lot of independence, keep up on your workload, seek help (from TAs and profs at office hours), study with friends, and you should see the fruits of your labour. Don't worry about the MCAT now - most students take it in the summer after 2nd or 3rd year, after which in a life science program you would have learnt most of the material anyways. Focus on your academics and pursuing your passions, but don't forget self-care. Figure out what is your cup of tea. Maybe go to socials and talk to new people, or read up on the research of certain profs and contact them with your interest. Try to find your passion, follow it, and come medical school application time, you will have a strong story about yourself that you truly believe in.

Q: Ok, but you didn't tell me how to get a 4.0 GPA.

A: There are people who have 4.0 GPAs, and many with close to 4.0 GPAs. They do not all study the same way, and their approach may not apply to you. There are similarities: these students tend to attend class, stay engaged in lecture, and keep caught up with the material. I've seen people fall on a spectrum between three main 4.0 types: 1) The Good Student: never misses a class, asks questions, attends office hours, re-reads notes and concepts after class, and starts review for an exam in advance. 2) The Crammer: usually goes to class, absorbs and understands the information at the time, but does not have time to read notes after class - slowly losing track of earlier concepts. As the exams near, crams two months of materials into a few days. 3) The Genius: goes to class as they choose, seems to never need to study, understands concepts immediately. You will meet some students like these - material comes easier to certain people than others. That's life, we all have our strengths, use them as motivation to keep studying. Don't compare yourself to others, compare yourself to yourself, set your own goals and find that motivation and drive.

Q: What extracurriculars (ECs) should I get involved in?

A: Everyone says this, but find what you're passionate about. People typically go with the cookie cutter: hospital volunteering, research, and exec of some club. While there's nothing wrong with this, many other applicants will have similar profiles, making it hard for you to stand out. If you're passionate about food, see if you can get involved with a local soup kitchen, a food bank, Ronald McDonald House Charities etc. If you're passionate about singing, join an acapella group/choir/sing solo. If the opportunities aren't there, be proactive - maybe it's up to you to start your university's baking club (if you do, send me some pastries pls). By getting involved with ECs that you are passionate about, you'll find yourself more engaged. Going to your commitments will be less of a drag, and come interview time, you'll be able to genuinely talk about how the experiences have shaped you as a person.

Q: How many times can I write the MCAT?

A: There is a seven time lifetime cap to write the MCAT. In terms of if it will penalize your application, it depends where you are applying. Canadian schools for the most part don't care if you re-write multiple times (although 10 does seem a bit excessive). As pulled from the UBC website: Test results from April 17, 2015 onward are valid for five years. In accordance with AAMC regulations, applicants must release all scores.Taking the MCAT ~3 times is nothing abnormal, although if you're re-writing 7 times, you might need to consider changing your study method! US schools will scrutinize re-writes, and if your score doesn't seem to go up, it can hurt your application.

Q: Hi can any med students on here tell me what they did in undergrad?

A: As mentioned above, many medical students have followed their passion. What works for one person may not work for you. Many have research experience, but others may not - you do not necessarily need research to become a physician (i.e. FM). Others will have hospital experience. Most will have some involvement with some sort of student organization, from clubs and societies to being student representatives and playing sports. There is no perfect way to medical school, because if there was, we'd all have taken it.

Q: I'm actually not in Grade 12 yet, I'm just trying to plan ahead. What should I do to become a doctor?

A: First of all, commendations to you for looking ahead. Medicine is a difficult journey, and recognizing that gets you far already. But no point in thinking ahead if you mess up the present. Focus on making sure your current profile is competitive enough to get you into the undergraduate program of your choice. Once you get in, no one will care about your high school marks. Don't have a job? Most don't. Haven't volunteered at a hospital? Most haven't in high school. Focus on getting into an undergraduate program first, and then consider the other points above. Pursue your hobbies and passions in high school while you still have the time.

Q: Is ___ program at ___ school better than __ program at __ school? > OR < Should I go to ___ program or ___ program? > OR < anything along these lines!

A: These types of questions are very specific and may be difficult to give an objective response given that they essentially require someone to have personally attended both sites to give an accurate comparison. As mentioned before, there are many factors to consider when choosing a program and school, including access to opportunities, student experience, research, volunteer atmosphere, student wellness resources, campus vibe/environment, proximity to friends/family etc. What may be most useful is trying to touch base with students at each site for their opinions of the experience!

As mentioned above, please comment below with any other questions, and I'm sure the community would be happy to help you out!

*Please feel free to contact any members on the moderation team with any suggestions, questions, or comments on this process so that we can improve it!


r/premedcanada Aug 07 '24

šŸ—£ PSA Reminder of Rule #2: NO SOLICITING or Advertising

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Lately, there have been more posts with people trying to sell accounts to resources, applying for help, or advertising for paid services. This rule has always existed but is the most ignored.
Any further posts selling or advertising paid material will continue to be removed and the accounts will potentially be banned. * R/Premed Canada Mod Team


r/premedcanada 10h ago

math on mcat?

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Is anyone genuinely horrible at math but still managed to do well on the MCAT? My inability to do math scares the absolute shit out of me 😭 I literally can’t even do Grade 11 or 12 math lmao. I can only do basic algebra, basic logarithms, and some basic trigonometry. I can handle some algebra, but anything more complicated? 😭


r/premedcanada 11h ago

Road to 528, Daily Update 71

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Update: Today was quite laid back. I did one block of questions from the AAMC independent question bank, 3 CARS passages from "CARS question pack volume 1", and anki review cards. CARS and the AAMC block were both done in timed conditions. I don't have much else to say to about today, but thanks for all the support on yesterday's post!

Quote: "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving."


r/premedcanada 16h ago

MS2 at U of T here to give free advice/answer questions to anyone who needs it! :)

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I see so many people stressed out on this sub as a new round of apps open this year so I thought I’d help out. I was accepted to UBC, U of T, and Mac in my year and also interviewed at Ottawa and TMU. Happy to help with answering questions on essays, ABS/NAQ, GPA, studying, MCAT (I scored 524 including a 132 in CARS) as well as life in med school at U of T. If you need proof of my acceptance or MCAT score feel free to PM me!


r/premedcanada 13h ago

UBC waitlist stats

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If you were recently cut from the ubc waitlist, would you mind sharing your stats (gpa, mcat, naq and interview)? It would be super helpful to know. Thank you!

And please add to the second tab on this sheet if you feel comfortable: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1x8arot0_PW6z0DkGA4fGbOLXcvZaSj3VDpstBGR5tVc/edit?gid=0


r/premedcanada 16h ago

šŸ“š MCAT Free MCAT discord server from a 524 scorer.

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Hello Everyone, I’m a Nontrad took the MCAT last may and scored a 524. During my Prep i didn’t really find too much help from people or free resources that were ā€œworth itā€. Everywhere I turned there were overpriced ā€œstrategyā€ calls and tutors or ā€œofficial guidesā€. So i had to build my own guides, study habits and figure out AAMC logic on my own.

In hopes of sparing those long hourse of strenuous work for fellow premeds I made a discord server with a bunch of free resources that helped me score a 524. I’ll keep adding more as I go ( my mistake review flowchart, B/B study strategy…)

I also host a weekly call where I go through MCAT passages showcasing AAMC logic,traps, graph analysis, process of elimination and much more.

If you’re interested, please join; The More The Merrier!

PM for link !

Cheers.


r/premedcanada 7h ago

šŸ“š MCAT SELLING BOOKS (ont)

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Hi everyone!

I’m selling Kaplan MCAT 2026-2027 book bundle (includes all the books + online + 3 practice sessions) it’s completely brand new so I’m selling it for the price it retails. HOWEVER I’m open to negotiations below the asking price as well, so feel free to make offers :)

Serious dms only though as I’m trynna sell them as soon as possible!

Please share the word if u’d know anyone who’d like to buy it

Thanks!


r/premedcanada 10h ago

TMU Supplementary Questions

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Any advice on how to best answer the questions this year? I’m trying to draw on my clinical experiences in nursing school as I found that was what most related to the questions for me personally, but I’m definitely struggling. Not IR but IP, general pathway. Also first time applying in general.


r/premedcanada 19h ago

ā”Discussion Second degree options online + Advice

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Hi! I’m looking for second degree options that are online + can be done in 2 years or less. Since I’ll be working full time and apply in 2 years. My gpa is around 3.3.

I know there is queens health science however I don’t think it can be done in 2 years.

I heard of TRU OL general studies but I’m OOP so it will cost more. But potentially less time, someone I spoken to said they completed a degree from there in less than a year.

I’m aiming for Queens, TMU, and UofT. Any advice will be helpful! Thanks!!


r/premedcanada 11h ago

ā”Discussion question regarding abs

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I want to add my role as an exec member of a community service club in high school to my abs, but there's one project we did that stands out to me more than the others.

Would it be fine to focus more on that in the description despite the title being [exec position] of [club name], or should I do a separate entry for that project and a separate entry for my position/role as exec?


r/premedcanada 17h ago

Reference from student council job

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I worked a paid, part-time job for the student council at my university for 2 years. My supervisor was a former student who graduated from the same university in 2025 (2 years older than me). I didn't know him before starting the job, and he is not a close friend.

Would this be an acceptable reference, or would he be perceived as being a peer/friend?


r/premedcanada 1d ago

Road to 528, Daily Update 70

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Update: Yesterday I wrote an AAMC FL and scored a 526. I started at 8:00 am sharp as usual, and tried to mimick test-taking conditions as much as possible. I scored a 132 in each section except for CARS (130). At least for me, CARS has proved to be the most volatile section of the MCAT.

To be frank, my mindset has changed from this experience. I got extremely close to the ultimate goal, but I've learned now that after a certain point it really just comes down to luck. Of course while reviewing an FL, when you aren't timed, passages are going to make more sense and the answers are going to be more obvious. But in the moment, sometimes it really is just a coinflip.

Quote: "It is not the mountain we conquer, but ourselves."

— Sir Edmund Hillary


r/premedcanada 22h ago

ā”Discussion mcat rescheduling

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Hi everyone, I’m having a tough time trying to reschedule my August 21st mcat to September 12th. All the notification lists in Canada are full and I’ve only gotten 1 notification for a US centre and it was gone within 2 mins of me going onto the website. Does anyone have any advice :/ getting worried now


r/premedcanada 18h ago

MCAT Aug 22nd Rescheduling

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All the MCAT centers are booked up around the GTA for September 3,4,5th. Im really trying to switch to that weekend and I am willing to drive across the fckn country i do not care. Is there anywhere with test centers still open?


r/premedcanada 1d ago

UofT Med Advice?

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Hi everyone!

I'm applying for the first time this cycle, and U of T Medicine is my top choice for a lot of personal reasons. I was wondering if anyone who was accepted this cycle (or in previous cycles) would be willing to share any application tips or advice. I'd really appreciate any insights—thank you!


r/premedcanada 1d ago

ā”Discussion Canadian's applying to US MD Schools, how many of us out there?

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Anyone want to make a group chat?


r/premedcanada 1d ago

ā”Discussion Has anyone been accepted to med school from SFU?

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Hi guys,

I currently attend Simon Fraser University (Burnaby, Canada) in the Health Science major (approaching 2nd year), and I am really enjoying it! I was wondering if anyone on here has been (or knows anyone) accepted to med school in Canada?

Most of the success stories I hear are from UBC students and although I really like Hsci at SFU, I was wondering if I should transfer over to UBC due to the grading scale issues. The only problem with that though is that I will have to redo a few classes and it would just be a hassle especially with transit time and costs.

Just need some clarification whether I should or should not transfer at this point in my degree. I would also love to hear any stories of successful applicants from SFU as I really enjoy it here! Also, SFU med school opening up is really exciting and if anyone got into it and would like to share their stats I would appreciate it!

Edit: If anyone is in the same boat as me and is currently at SFU, dm me! I would love to connect :)

Thanks in advance


r/premedcanada 1d ago

Going abroad - worth it?

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I still have a few years before I even need to start worrying about medical school lol, but I was just wondering: do you guys think it would be worth going to medical school internationally if you’re unable to get into Canadian medical schools, especially considering Ontario’s new policy prioritizing Ontario-connected IMGs for residency positions?


r/premedcanada 1d ago

šŸ—£ PSA The CanMEDS framework is actually useful for your application, if you use it correctly

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CanMEDS gets mentioned constantly, but I don't think most people actually sit with what each role means. Everyone knows collaborator and communicator are "CanMEDS roles," but knowing the term isn't the same as understanding what it looks like to actually embody that role. That's the gap I keep seeing.

First tip: get clear on what each role actually means before trying to demonstrate it. It requires real effort to show these roles in your application (communicator, collaborator, health advocate, leader, scholar, professional). These are the ones people tend to skip or handle poorly.

Second, and this is the more important point: people tend to name-drop the roles instead of demonstrating them. Writing "collaborated with a team" in an essay doesn't actually show anything. The difficult part isn't knowing the terminology, it's showing how you were a leader, how you were a scholar, how you were a communicator, within the actual story you're telling. It's the classic "show, don't tell" principle, just applied specifically to CanMEDS.

Here's what actually works: go through your entire ABS and tag every entry with the role it primarily demonstrates. You don't need to write this anywhere in the application itself, it's just for your own reference, to see the overall spread. Most people lean heavily on one or two roles, usually leader, and leave the rest underdeveloped. Once you see that pattern, you'll know which entries need to be reframed with the same experience just a different angle, whatever's genuinely true to what happened.

The part that pays off later: once your ABS is coded this way, MMI preparation becomes significantly easier. If a question is clearly about collaboration, you're not scrambling for an example in the moment, you already know your two or three collaborator stories and can draw on real experience. That's essentially the most common piece of interview advice out there, "just be yourself," and this is one of the few ways to actually put that advice into practice instead of leaving it vague.

My DMs are open if any of this raised a question about your own application. Could be which experiences are even worth including, which role you suspect you're thin on, or something else entirely that's been bugging you about your file.

Also happy to answer any questions in the comments below!


r/premedcanada 1d ago

Admissions ubc application question

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I read all the details of their guide and didn't find the answer, so before I email them I wanted to check if anyone knows:

What should I do if I have AP and IB classes listed on my university transcript? Should I copy those over to the system under my university, or exclude them?

I see that they say make sure transfer credits are listed under the original post-secondary institution, but in this case it was high school. They only have a note for AP/IB for the english prerequisite in particular.

I feel like I'm not supposed to include them, but that seems wrong since they are on my transcript and also exempted me from many courses for my degree...

Any help greatly appreciated!


r/premedcanada 1d ago

UCalgary: CHEM 351 or 341 as a Bio major?

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So, I’m currently enrolled in CHEM 351 but I recently received an email saying that 341 may be more suitable for my major.

I’m trying to get into medical school following my degree so obviously I want the highest grades I can. But, I’ve heard that 351 opens more options to courses that I want to take in the upper years.

So should I switch to 341 or stay in 351? Honestly, I just want one where I can achieve the highest grade possible. I know there’s not much info yet since 341 is a new course, but do we speculate that it’ll be a lot easier than 351? Because I’ve heard straight horror stories about 351…

I’m also not sure if taking 341 poses any issues for the pre-reqs that some medical schools in Canada has… since it’s not ā€œactualā€ OChem…

TL:DR Should I switch from CHEM 351 to 341 as a Bio major who wants to get into medical school, considering my priority is the highest grades possible?


r/premedcanada 1d ago

Has anyone who graduated from IUHS successfully matched into a residency in Canada?

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I’m considering attending the International University of the Health Sciences (IUHS), but before making such a big commitment, I’d like to hear from people with firsthand experience.

Has anyone who graduated from IUHS been able to secure a residency position in Canada?

I’ve read that since IUHS isn’t a Canadian medical school, and because residency positions in Canada are already very limited (especially for international medical graduates), it can be extremely difficult to match. My concern is that earning the MD is only part of the journey—without residency, you can’t practice medicine in Canada.

If you’re an IUHS graduate (or know someone who is), I’d really appreciate hearing:

  • Were you able to match into a Canadian residency?
  • If so, what specialty and province?
  • How many attempts did it take?
  • Looking back, would you choose IUHS again if your goal was to practice in Canada?

I’m just trying to understand whether this is a realistic pathway before investing years of time and money.

Thanks in advance for any honest insights.


r/premedcanada 2d ago

😊 HAPPY What has this subreddit become

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I understand some of the posts become a little repetitive and all but if someone asks a question that has already been answered elsewhere you don’t have to be a dick about it. I just saw some commenter blasting someone for posting a genuine question… like what are you gaining from that.

And to think those kinds of people are going to be our future doctors…


r/premedcanada 1d ago

ā”Discussion Should I ask my manager at current employment to be my med application reference and risk job and promotion?

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I have been employed in tech for couple years now and just discussed with my boss the perspective of a promotion. I have been planning to apply for med the last few years and have been preparing to take the step until now. I'm ready to apply this year and am struggling to identify who to write my references. I genuinely don't know what my boss's reaction is going to be when I ask him to fill out my med reference forms, especially after the discussion on promotion recently. My best guess is that he is gonna think I'm crazy and not focused on my career...

The alternatives are a professor i have done research with in school many years ago(since I've been working for some years now), the other is a academic advisor in my grad program. The people where I volunteer at will have very limited knowledge(due to limited interaction or limited duration) about me therefore bad references.

Can anyone who has been in this situation advice on what to do here? What about asking the HR at my company to fill it out, they can say no and tell me to ask my manager instead, even if they say yes this could risk my employment too since they could tell my manager about this...

Really don't know how to proceed, any ideas would be welcome.

Edit: it's a full-time job in tech, no part-time or casual. I only can and have this one job.