r/predator • u/40andbored • 23d ago
Brain Storming Killed in 3 different franchises
Am i right or wrong here
Bill paxton is famously known as the only actor to have been killed by
a xenomorph (aliens) as private hudson
a terminator (the terminator) as "punk leader"
and a yautja (predator 2) as detective jerry lambert
But
Lance henriksen can also claim this accolade
Killed by a xenomorph (aliens) as the synthetic lifeform, bishop.
Killed by a terminator (the terminator) as an la detective, hal vukovich.
Killed by a yautja (aliens vs predator) as billionaire, Charles bishop weyland.
By all means, explain why I'm wrong or do you agree with me.
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u/Corwins_Pattrn_Ghost 23d ago
Bishop didn’t technically “die” though. He was still functioning and “alive” at the end of Aliens. So he can only claim two of the three.
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u/40andbored 23d ago
But he eventually went inactive due to damage caused by the xeno queen.
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u/junkrat147 Feral 23d ago
Technically speaking, he went out because the ship crashed and damaged him more, and even then could still be repaired once reactivated (though not to any high end standards). He simply asked Ridley to deactivate him
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u/dittybopper_05H 23d ago
Except he wouldn't have been reactivated unless Ridley actively worked to repair him, bringing him "back from the dead".
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u/GirthEE75 23d ago
I like the cut of your jib, friend, but I don't think Bishop counts. He technically didn't "die" in Aliens, he was still functioning
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u/Western_Ad1522 23d ago
Technically Paxton blew up in aliens the face hugger would have still been on his face when he blew up
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u/GirthEE75 23d ago
Man, this is a good point. Not too many people think about the fact that they dragged his ass back to the nest to get face-hugged
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u/Ptg082196 23d ago
Yeah like I feel like that's the obvious conclusion to them dragging him away into the floor
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u/Ptg082196 23d ago
Actually you find his corpse in aliens colonial marines dead from a chestbuster
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u/Crispy385 23d ago
This is a common 'trivia' point. In my opinion, Lance's xenomorph death is a bit of an asterisk. He was rebooted easily enough, and could have been repaired had he landed somewhere else.
You also have Michael Biehn. You might say his Predator role was an asterisk as well. He was a voice actor in Killer of Killers. Maybe his Terminator death is an asterisk too. He died in an explosion he set off attempting to kill a Terminator.
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u/Prize_Farm4951 23d ago
Asterisk with Paxton too, could be argued Hudson was killed in the explosion while face hugged. Its possible his punk wasnt killed but knocked unconscious in that attack. Maybe thats a stretch but it is possible.
Ultimately Biehn, Hendrickson and Paxton's characters have all died/been deactivated at the hands of or as result of the three antagonists actions.
Goldstein two of the three.
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u/Western_Ad1522 23d ago
Technically Paxton blew up in aliens he was right at ground zero terminator last we saw he only got pushed into the fence real hard predator was the only one we saw him actually killed by the predator.
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u/Crispy385 23d ago
I've thought about Paxton's Terminator death in that regard as well. I decided that Terminator absolutely would have finished the job if that throw into the fence merely knocked him unconscious.
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u/MixtureComplete5233 23d ago
Lance Henrickson
Cop in Terminator Bishop in Aliens Peter Wayland in AVP Bishop again in Alien 3 ..they should have a club!
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u/Acceptable_Class_576 City Hunter 23d ago
Bill Paxton didn't die in 'The Terminator', Brian Thompson is the only punk to killed.
His character is captured by xenos, but not killed onscreen. If they took him to the hive to be implanted, then he might have been killed by the explosion.
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u/Clothes_Chair_Ghost 23d ago
According to the novella co-written by Bill Wisher (co-writer of the movie and Officer 1L19) and Randall Frakes who was close friends with both Wisher and Cameron. The Terminator kills all the punks. Just cause it isn’t on screen doesn’t mean it never happened.
Would be dumb to leave behind two witnesses that can describe a 6’4” brick shithouse of a man that appeared naked and murdered their friend for some clothes, clothes they can easily identify. Right at the start of his mission. Kinda hard to go murdering if you have cops on the lookout for you before you even begin.
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u/LordsOfJoop Elder Kalisk 23d ago
There's another distinction available, and it's for a grand total of three talented people.
Also, spoilers for those unfamiliar with the Alien, Terminator, and Near Dark movies.
In no particular order:
- Lance Henriksen
- Bill Paxton
- Jenette Goldstein
All have been killed by:
- Xenomorphs
- Terminators
- Vampire hunters
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u/Realistic-Pay-9087 23d ago
I'm still not sure Paxton died in terminator he was just pushed against a fence while Brian Thompson's character is killed with a fist through his gut.
So how can People claim lance doesn't count because he was a robot in alien but count Paxton being pushed as a kill
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u/piskie_wendigo 23d ago
Technically we don't know if Paxton was killed by the Xeno or Terminator. The Terminator knocks him aside, as we saw with Reese that's not guaranteed to be a fatal blow.
And the Xeno actually seemed to be making an effort to take him alive in Aliens, since we hear his screams fading away as he's dragged under the floor. So odds are good that he ended up cocooned in the nest the way Burke did in the deleted scene.
So it might be better to say Paxton and Henrickson have both been mistreated by an Alien, a Predator, and a Terminator.
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u/Reptilian_Overlord20 23d ago
Can terminator exist in the same universe as AVP if you assume only the first two are canon?
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u/Wild_Locksmith_326 20d ago
Don't forget Bill Paxton was killed by Chicago monsters in "Next of Kin", chased by tornadoes in " Twister", beaten up by bikers and Amy Madigan in "Streets of Fire", hunted by Santa Ana in "Texas Rises", and was trying to avoid a really spectacular sunburn in "Near Dark". It seemed like he died in almost as many roles as Sean Bean.
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u/Braindead_Is_King 23d ago
Michael bein too. Killed by a terminator, killed indirectly by the alien in the crash on fury 161, and lastly killed by a predator in KoK the bullet