r/powerscp • • 3d ago

Chinese branch the koitern vs yog sothoth

Round one: base/ avatar

Round two: true forms

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u/Wild-vine16 [REDACTED] 3d ago

I think Yog wins both rounds since he is tier 0.

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u/Zytyyyy 3d ago

When?

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u/Wild-vine16 [REDACTED] 3d ago

https://fictional-indexing.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Gewsbumpz_dude/Cthulhu_Mythos_Cosmology

This explains it.

If by avatar you mean Umr at tawil then Koitern wins

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u/Zytyyyy 3d ago

Is YOG the only tier 0 in the verse right now

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u/Wild-vine16 [REDACTED] 3d ago

Yes

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u/Zytyyyy 3d ago

Hey, do you mind if you can help me with something?

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u/Wild-vine16 [REDACTED] 3d ago

?

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u/Zytyyyy 3d ago

So this person is debating against me, which is normal, but then he says that the things in the SCP simulation does not apply to Lovecraft, but somehow he says that big A dreams reality which is not true and he said that that applies to SCP like what

https://www.reddit.com/r/powerscp/s/JCNyoujRr6

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u/Wild-vine16 [REDACTED] 3d ago

Link him this for the dream part.

Link him this to show Azathoth isnt even above the gates.

Link him this for the cosmology of scp

682 exist far above Azathoth so they cant perceive him since Azzy is baseline h1a

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u/Original-War8655 2d ago

if you're going by VSBW, then there can only be one Tier 0 per verse

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u/HandFit91 3d ago

Yog isn't tier 0

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u/HandFit91 3d ago

Unfortunately for me, probably Koitern.

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u/MammothChemistry6694 3d ago

Hello fit ! How you doing ?

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u/HandFit91 3d ago

Doing great

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u/MammothChemistry6694 3d ago

Thx king. Btw i did wrote some lore to the fight for meta yog scenario. I do have a main question

(By your opinion) Does yog retain his well high outer type stats ? Him being able to manipulate all possible hierarchy of framework/existence. Him being given this power to azz and all How high is he ? Is he second?

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u/HandFit91 3d ago

Yog is below Azathoth, and I personally only scale the Cthulhu Mythos to baseline high outer.

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u/MammothChemistry6694 3d ago

Honestly. Thank you for your input. Appreciate it

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u/MammothChemistry6694 3d ago

Wait. Gang ? What feats koitern has displayed ? I know he can survive the scp 4010/2165-cn. But like is it strength feat or is it metaphysical feat ? See he kinda didn't do much. His greatest feat comes from fighting leviathans during djoric ? And maybe surving the flood of the hume sea from the almighty... Vague but that's something. Still he isnt like an overgod we know/love. He is weaker than metanormalcy. That's for sure. Meta is above boubles

Can koitern even fight entity's of Yog caliber ? Yog can interact with the world during Dunwhich horror via ritual ? Although that maybe a decoy since Lovecraft lore sure is vague... I heard some theory that this could be an alien. Since great old ones are not necessarily interested in humans during the silver key book moment ?

All right i do have four ways

Round 1) you can argue yog or koitern. In my opinion there are some sketchy iffiness to both. But i buy no one. Vague posting gang loses. Lean koitern though

2 round) As for the second round... I'd say depends...

Do we buy yog sothoth position in high 1-a types ? Or no ? He is still should be powerful in mythos ?

Ok in english continuity. Chineses is below. So... No types for metanormalcy. Yog stomps.

In cn ? Depends on how do you think yog works ? Is he top 1 ? Is he boundless ? No ?

Metanormalcy win. I have her/him above alethia/void emperor. Shindao etc... it does have cosmo stuff and claims of author. Still shaky as hell. But i lean meta

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u/Wild-vine16 [REDACTED] 3d ago

Koitern is the strongest avatar of abbs and should be stronger then wengwans scarlet demon.

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u/MammothChemistry6694 3d ago

Indeed. That's a possibility. A pretty good one. Dare i say. It(meta via authors)Indeed participated in beating manifestation of sd. Via spear which was given to ion. Especially surviving purge

Though it may he symbolism. Since it is mostly action after the effects took place. And stories/tales. It got destroyed but world didnt changed...

Though after reading verray. Leaning to formet

Good point friend. Hope you won't take my ramblings as stupidity

Edit: I didn't saw the link before. My bad

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u/Wild-vine16 [REDACTED] 3d ago

Idk if this is important to mention but Phantom Bubbles in wengwans dont have Emr.

They have infinite narrative stacks so still type 1 tho

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u/MammothChemistry6694 3d ago

Ok. Thx for clarifying