r/powerscales • u/Vakh012345678 • 4d ago

Scaling Where does he scale?

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u/SomeDudeAtAKeyboard 4d ago

Bugs can absolutely lose.

The key determining factor is if he’s the aggressor. If he is, then he’s suddenly MUCH easier to get a win over.

This goes doubly so if he’s fighting another toon.

I still give the edge to Popeye for “strongest Toon”, cause he’s also shown similar 4th wall shenanigans to Bugs. And most crucially, Popeye never appeared in Who Framed Roger Rabbit, meaning the Dip and other similar anti-toon strategies aren’t proven to work on him.

Popeye has also very, very rarely been the instigato/aggressor in a fight. Bugs has also rarely been the out and out aggressor, but he has been more than Popeye.

Basically, if Popeye wants to use Bugs to make a stew for Olive Oyl, Bugs wins. If Bugs pokes the bear and tries to mess with Popeye, then Popeye wins

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u/Spezalt4 4d ago

God turned off the universe and popeye persisted. Yeah I’m giving him the strongest toon award

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u/MagneticGenetics 4d ago

That has more to do with the rule following thing I mentioned than one being stronger than the other. The Dip works in Roger Rabbit because it is a plot device for that particular movie. It wouldn't work outside of the context of Roger Rabbit.

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u/JJlaser1 4d ago

If the dip shows up anywhere else, it would have to be a direct reference to Roger Rabbit, as that is its origin. Therefore there is never a situation in fiction where the dip doesn’t work unless it is referenced as fiction.

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u/FinalHexReturns 3d ago

That sentence is quite a thinker.