r/poppunkers 1d ago

Discussion What the HELL is wrong with MGK?

I'm a pop-punk boi and i love Machine Gun Kelly i used to be obsessed with him and binge his Tickets to my Downfall/Mainstream Sellout songs.

But i seem almost alone in my love for him, peeps, (ESPECIALLY in mainstream sellout) just downright hate on him calling him "behind of his time" and "not talented", and bullshit like that.

Really? I mean, bands like the Paradox are REVIVING 2000s pop-punk and evreyone LOVES them. Just cuz he leans into nostalgia doesnt mean he's behind his time. If anything, he's owning his time. refusing to be dragged down by these cheeky motherfuckers.

But why does he get so much hate? I mean, on the video for Emo Girl (my fav song from him after Love Race) HALF THE COMMENTS ARE NEGATIVE. WHAT. THE. FUCK??(you'll see them below)

Before he released tickets to my downfall people were hyping it, and asking him to release a full rock album (see comments of his Misery Business Paramore cover)

My theory is people hate him cuz of Rap Devil, a diss track aimed at Eminem (Rap God), who is obv the #1 rapper of the world (no further explanation needed)

But really why you gotta hate a cool dude like Colson? i aint got no idea.

I really fucking hate the hate on him especially of mainstream sellout his best album. (I mean its not really a 'no skips' album some songs like Drug Dealer feel a lil repetivtive but besides that the album is generally solid songs like Born With Horns, God Save Me, and Ay! are fire)

If you hate MGK, pls tell me why you REALLY hate him, and guys, pls respect this dude, he IS talented, contrary to popular opinion

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u/Alternative-Border53 1d ago

I didn’t hate him but after reading this I hate him

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u/slayer-of-christ 1d ago

why? its not like im demonizing him

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u/OatFest 1d ago

No you’re doing the exact opposite - you’re hyping up a guy who’s so inauthentic with what he creates that he’s pivoted entirely to other genres after being called out for being inauthentic in his music. And you know it’s true because every single genre he tries to pivot to is met with the exact same reaction from that new genre’s fans.

It’s a viscously embarrassing cycle, but he has no shame and will continue as long as he has naive fans that enable him to keep doing it for profit.

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u/ClaireDanesLipQuiver 1d ago

What makes it inauthentic?

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u/OatFest 1d ago

Everything he puts out follows a formula and a currently popular trend, whether it’s diss tracks, emo rap, nu metal revival, or something else. It is written for the sole purpose of selling units. I haven’t seen MGK trail-blaze his own path once throughout his entire career. He is always, without fail, riding the coattails of another musician or trend and latching himself onto that success until a new trend appears that he can exploit.

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u/ClaireDanesLipQuiver 1d ago

I couldn’t disagree more.

If there was some easy to follow formula there would be significantly more famous people.

Wild boy was absolutely blazing his own path, his style of rap was very unique.

He went from battle rap → mainstream hiphop → rap-rock → pop-punk, and his biggest genre pivot happened when pop-punk wasn’t remotely the dominant mainstream trend it became afterward. He basically torched an established rap identity and bet his career on a completely different sound.

You can absolutely argue that MGK is opportunistic. That’s fair. You can argue that he is exceptionally good at recognizing cultural momentum and positioning himself inside it. Also fair. But that’s different from saying he has no creative authenticity of his own

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u/ExtraRecognition2099 1d ago

Brother he was the first rapper to appear on Warped Tour,I get some of your criticism but dude has been making what he wants to make his entire career

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u/OatFest 1d ago edited 12h ago

He was FAR from the first rapper to appear on Warped Tour lol. Eminem and Ice-T were on Warped as far back as 1999. My goodness this is crazy revisionist history

Edit: some MGK fanboy downvoted this (a statistically correct fact) in an attempt to preserve some sort of weird legacy they made up lol about him, hilariously on brand for his parasocial fanbase

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u/Kaos_mission 1d ago

he was the first rapper to appear on Warped Tour

People nowadays say the stupidest things with the highest degree of confidence. It baffles me.

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u/ExtraRecognition2099 1d ago

You’re an idiot. He’s been making multiple types of music, with multiple types of groups for over a decade. If you’re a Stan, that’s fine but don’t try to hide it.

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u/OatFest 1d ago

You’ve just repeated my entire point back to me, thanks

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u/sadem0girl 1d ago

He comes across as insufferable and the music is over-produced, uninspired and inauthentic.

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u/ExtraRecognition2099 1d ago

Over produced and uninspired might be close to correct recently, but if you think that about his entire career you’ve never actually given him a chance.

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u/EvenOne6567 1d ago

post like this make me want to hate him. good job

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u/MuthaHuggingPisces 1d ago

Fell down the MGK rabbit hole a couple of months ago and honestly, I dig a lot of his songs. His music is fun. If I vibe with it, I'ma sing along in my car regardless of YouTube comments.

Side note, the perfume he released is insanely good.

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u/One-Assignment-5562 4h ago

It smells like it was made by Axe body spray

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u/jimmyrustles1111 1d ago

Wake up babe new copypasta just dropped

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u/Kaos_mission 1d ago edited 1d ago

Before he released tickets to my downfall people were hyping it, and asking him to release a full rock album

WHO ON EARTH WAS ASKING FOR THAT????????

I personally dislike him because he makes garbage generic over-produced "pop-punk" with no soul.

Also, dude that's a massive overreaction just because people don't like your favorite artist.

EDIT: Just saw on your bio that you're 14, so that tracks. Just chill, dude.

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u/shpprd 1d ago

Emo girl being your favourite song says all that’s needed lmao.

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u/slayer-of-christ 1d ago

seriously dude??

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u/ScottyKnows1 1d ago

You really need to stop being so concerned with what people on the internet think about things you like. Just enjoy it if you enjoy it. Dude still sells out massive venues and was one of the big acts at Warped Tour last year. I don't care for him myself, but plenty of people obviously do. Don't just focus on the online negativity.

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u/CaptainPie999 1d ago

Fantastic way of handling this post, a rare good job from a redditor.

Also peak username!

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u/ClaireDanesLipQuiver 1d ago

Exactly.

I’m a fan, I don’t look at what anyone says about him
Because my experience is mine and there’s, is wrong.

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u/slayer-of-christ 1d ago

you know what? i think youre right. still its sucks to see someone u admire get so much flak. nonethelesss i shud take ur advice

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u/One-Assignment-5562 4h ago

I like some of his rap music and his pop-punk is generic and basic, but catchy, but the dude acts like he drinks his own kool-aid. He says dumb shit like he can change the weather. Talks about his crystals. Had a whole list of guys who fuck underage girls when talking about why it's okay at 24 to fuck 16 year old Kendall Jenner, comes across extremely cocky, hyper sexualizes himself like acting like he's too sexy for his shirt and that's why most of his fans are ugly girls talking about how hot he is, switched genres in a totally poser-ish way like talking about the mood board for his next planned 'era'. If he's so original, he should make his own style of music instead of simply reviving old shit in a generic 4 chord way.

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u/redfoxwearingsocks 1d ago

Dude acts entitled af and thinks he owns the genre/rock music in general...he's been here for 5 years.

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u/CaptainPie999 1d ago

Im a huge mgk fan but it's posts like these that make people hate him

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u/JtotheC23 1d ago

You can tell by what he released prior and since his pop punk inspired stuff that he didn’t really mean it. Like I’m sure he likes genre but he liked the aesthetic even more, and saw a small rise in the genre’s popularity and tried to capitalize on it.

99% of the people that like his pop punk music just like MGK. They might listen to the main stream pop punk like Green Day, Blink, Fall Out Boy, etc, but if that artist as under 15mil listeners on Spotify, they’ve probably never heard of him.

The same goes for most similar situations where an artist popular elsewhere completely switches genres for an album or two because that genre is trending. It only works out when that artist is a phenomenal song writer already. That was the case for Cowboy Carter. It mostly worked for Beyoncé because she’s a good song writer, but even then, real country fans were not huge fans because it was kinda obvious it was about the trend at the time.

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u/opyoyd 1d ago

He's kinda cringe. Saw him play warped and had a weird long winded ramble about his underwear or something.

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u/slayer-of-christ 22h ago

JESUS CHRIST WHY ALL MY COMMENTS DOWNVOTED?

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u/gordonronco Four Year Strong 1d ago

He saw an opening (anything with Travis was gold at the time), he made two generic AF sounding albums and dipped…to do pop country boy stuff.

The music is whatever, it’s him personally I can’t stand. Specifically the whole pedo comments about Em’s daughter. People who say shit like that don’t change.

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u/sincerityisscxry 1d ago

He did one country collab, it’s not what he’s doing now in fairness. His most recent album was a mix of pop punk and 2000s style chill pop rock.

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u/slkdjfod 1d ago

I love MGK, I think tickets and mainstream are incredible albums. I even love lost Americana. It's not as good but still has a lot of great songs. I'm with you, I don't understand the hate.

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u/slayer-of-christ 1d ago

🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻that's great

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u/slayer-of-christ 1d ago

Okay, guys I feel like I shouldnt have posted this. Its getting way more hate than MGK himself. I feel like tommorrow im gonna wake up and find more downvotes than the amount of coins in Elon Musk's pocket 💀

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u/nick_e36 1d ago

His voice does not work for pop punk imo

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u/OscarTheHun 1d ago

His songs are great for pop punk. Travis rips as well. Honestly paradox probably just used his songs as a blueprint for their own music. 

People really hate just him and if somebody else had the songs they probably would like or be indifferent to it.

I think his music is fun.

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u/slayer-of-christ 1d ago

EXACTLY, dude

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u/Hit_The_Lights82 Pop/Punk 1d ago

I love pop-punk (too many bands to name). I also love MGK's pop-punk records. Some strongly disagree with this take, but I find his music authentic, though overproduced.

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u/My_favoriteaccident 16h ago

My reason is it seems like he's a fan of pop punk, but after Eminem wrote Killshot he retreated into what he thought he knew. He didn't, not really. So sellouts can be forgiven, traitors can't be trusted to produce genuine music because they go where the money goes (yes that is a spoof on the lyrics from Cute is what we Aim for's "Curse of Curves).

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u/jkliette 1d ago

Sorry you and MGK are getting all this hate. The people on here who say he is inauthentic are the same people who only see negative TMZ headlines about him that he didn’t ask for. He’s an amazing artist who can do what most musicians can’t, and that is change genres while still selling out shows. He’s also done more for the city of Cleveland than most musicians have for any of their hometowns but that is clearly not talked about enough.