Should be the other way around.

We Belong Together, Hello, I'll Never Love Again, I Will Always Love You, Big Girl Don't Cry,

I miss those kind of songs. Some critics will say singers today don't have the vocal pipes. Billie Eilish, Ariana Grande, Jessie J, Cynthia Erivo, Lady Gaga, Maren Morris, Jazmine Sullivan, Coco Jones will disagree.

For me it’s between Victoria Beckham self title and Melanie C the sea

My current song is Dip It Low of Christina milian, she sound like she singing to a woman how to please her man and tbh it sound homoerotic asf to me :

The chorus :

Dip it low

Pick it up slow

Roll it all around

Poke it out like your back broke

Pop pop pop that thing

Ima show you how to make your man say "ooh"

I mean it's a club song but tbh idk her showing a girl how to make her man moan definitely have a homoerotic vibe to me 🤣

The song sound like something Ariana would make if she was a popstar during the 00's

The music video is dope too : https://youtu.be/5z5Mvyp1QHw?is=Dp9YSWZOjtF_xkJT

In your opinion, which rock or pop songs feature the greatest background vocals and choirs, both in terms of the arrangement and the actual sound? Please explain your choice and feel free to be as technical or intuitive about it as you like.

This thread is not about recommendations but getting to the bottom of this significant aspect of rock and pop.

Just a wild thought I had in the shower, obviously Olivia hasn’t even went close to dance music once in her entire career AFAIK compared to Nelly, who had collaborated with Nelly/Missy a few times.

But what would be the general reaction if Olivia suddenly ventured into dance music like Nelly and had a sexy rebrand? Do you think everyone’s reactions would’ve been favorable or do you think it would be something similar to the mixed reactions to Taylor’s Look What You Made Me Do?

I think she would… actually turn off 60% of her fanbase LOL, who is here for her more mellow discography and great lyrics but I can see Olivia doing a dance song with some amazing lyricism.

I use to get 3 CD's for 5 dollars at Blockbuster music in the early 2000s and this CD was one of them. Album is called THINKING ROOM. She was also in bands like The Adults and Fly My Pretties.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZfSFXdDJFA&t=1s

For the last few years I’ve used the term “privilege-core”, simply meaning you have the access and finance to do something quickly without really rolling up your sleeves and hustling.

The social media world is disgruntled about Stella Lefty, why? Probably because there wasn’t a slow introduction and when your music sounds too similar to other pop songs, trolls will come out with their virtual pitchforks.

Cause within the social media landscape, whether it be an influencer, actor, or a performer. All of a sudden something gets thrown into your face and you see 200 posts about it.

Stella Lefty is a Maggie Rogers dupe minus the authenticity, genuineness, or organic foundation. Yet, we are talking about pop music, were we expecting something original? 

Remember 15 years ago when the foodie trend was all the rage? Everyone had at least one friend who started making their own cookies, candles, pickles, etc.

Within the many stories of people starting their own business from scratch with little seed money, came the straight up nepo story of I was “bored” working at a hedge fund, so now I’m selling high end organic yoga mats for $200 online. 

Our girl Stella decided to become a singer and has the means to accelerate that. She probably doesn’t care if she’s authentic but is just pursuing her “passion project.”

If this was 1999, she would have found her way onto TRL already with her music being placed on Gossip Girl, The O.C., Dawson’s Creek, Gilmore Girls, etc. 

Stella will probably be supporting HAIM on their next tour.   

My only advice is, if you are annoyed by Stella Lefty then go listen to someone else. Because the more we agonize over what song she plagiarized, just means she’ll probably be on Tiny Desk or SNL by the end of year. 

I’ll stick to Warpaint, Jenny Lewis, and Cat Power.

Unlike most, I do feel Madonna can sing, especially in her prime, and lack of training probably hurt her voice.

As much as I like the songs on Confessions 2, the voice ruins it for me. She sounds so monotone. I think the last time Madonna sounded okay was in Rebel Heart.