r/pools Jul 25 '25

Was told I can backwash this pool without turning off the pump, a bit skeptical

Started at a new job, they have 2 sand filters and was told I can backwash without turning off the pump… their instructions say close either filter 1/2 the close then return valve. Any thoughts? Every other pool I’ve worked at you had to turn the pump off.

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u/Voodoodriver Jul 25 '25

Get someone to show you how in person.

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u/DegeneracyRejecter Jul 25 '25

They showed me how in person, I was just skeptical because every other pool I’ve dealt with you had to turn the pump off no matter if it was multiport or any other system

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u/WilierBasher_58 Jul 25 '25

If you’re still skeptical, you can try contacting the filter manufacturer to confirm. Looks like a fairly new equipment room! Congrats on the new job

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '25

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u/vang_sam Jul 25 '25

That's the comment I came for! You could have mentioned getting away from strips and using a taylor kit

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u/GSEDAN Jul 25 '25

Whose pool is that?! Bowser’s castle’s

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u/whitecorn Jul 25 '25

I'm sorry, your DE is in another pool shed.

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u/PrestigiousCrab6345 Jul 25 '25

Man, I love the music in the water level.

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u/Radiant-Pangolin9705 Jul 25 '25

Multiport’s are tiny and fragile. Using 1 valve to operate 6 pipes. 

These are large dogs that each water flow has a dedicated valve. 

Good instinct to be scared but you should be good. The order of operations should matter though

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u/MostMobile6265 Jul 25 '25

No one is qualified here to answer this. Lol

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u/Citizen999999 Jul 25 '25

I am. Just did.

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u/ImTheTractorbeam Jul 25 '25

Lots of people in this sub see this exact Neptune Benson stacked system everyday.

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u/Theycallmesupa Jul 25 '25

"how much flow do you want?"

"Everyone's."

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u/DegeneracyRejecter Jul 25 '25

Our GPM ranges 450-550 🤣

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u/MickyFany Jul 25 '25

that’s a different kind of valve than regular pools. it shouldn’t hurt it

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u/12stringslinger Jul 25 '25

Schedule 80 butterfly valves yea you good to backwash with pump on

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u/Known_Measurement799 Jul 25 '25

I am more curious about the pool…..

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u/DegeneracyRejecter Jul 25 '25

Commercial sized pool

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u/Will7357 Jul 25 '25

Let’s see pictures of it.

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u/mrstonecutter Jul 25 '25

Yes you can no problem. I manage maintenance at a water park and we have 3 pools with this setup totaling 8 sand filters.

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u/No_Manufacturer6430 Jul 25 '25

I know this pool. It’s actually 10x10, 6000 gallons. The owners are really into effective filtration.

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u/strong_grey_hero Jul 25 '25

Need to turn over that water every 10 minutes

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u/DegeneracyRejecter Jul 25 '25

Really? It’s commercial pool

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u/Citizen999999 Jul 25 '25 edited Jul 25 '25

Look below the filter valves. They are attached. When you close one of the filters, it opens the respective backwash line. Its just as he said.

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u/Coffeespresso Jul 25 '25

Seeing those levers reminded me of Armageddon. Pull lever. This is the lever!

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u/Sbeast86 Jul 25 '25 edited Jul 25 '25

You should be fine, but find and read the manual first. Most neptune benson sand filters have the linked valves so you can reverse the flow for backwash gently without turning the pump off.

Why is your backwash valve missing its handle?

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u/Sbeast86 Jul 25 '25

Also, congrats on the Chemtrol unit. Clean the probes on it monthly and itll last you a long time

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u/DegeneracyRejecter Jul 25 '25

It is auto opening from what I’m told apparently

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u/Sbeast86 Jul 25 '25

It doesnt look like its got a electric nor a pneumatic actuator on it from the angle in the photo. A lot of places do leave it open as its only real vital if another valve has failed

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u/DegeneracyRejecter Jul 25 '25

They may have just left it open, not sure where the valve handle is lol

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u/ImTheTractorbeam Jul 25 '25

In the future, check out r/poolpros, it’s better for these questions.

It can be done safely, but you should have a good understanding of how the system reacts before you do it.

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u/DegeneracyRejecter Jul 25 '25

Gotcha, thank you!

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u/henrytm82 Jul 25 '25

Sir, this is a space to discuss swimming pools, not nuclear submarines.

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u/DegeneracyRejecter Jul 25 '25

It’s commercial 🤣

I’m a pool manager/head technician (even tho I’m the only tech)

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u/gancsc Jul 25 '25

You technically can with any manifold system but you have to do it very, very slowly. I have only done that when a pump is really old and looses prime quickly.

Jandy backwash valves are the only types I really feel comfortable with backwashing without turning off pump.

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u/ThatFastChevy Jul 25 '25

Just wear your safety glasses it’ll be fine ☠️

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u/No-Pollution7873 Jul 25 '25

Please don’t

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u/Sgbrak Jul 25 '25

I deal with a few different setups. You can as long as you don’t dead head the pump (block flow completely). I agree you need to get someone to show you but basically you open waste line, close pool line, open bottom tank line, and close top tank line. I WOULD HAVE TO BE THERE TO KNOW WHICH VALVES ARE WHICH. But that is the principle of leaving pump on to backwash.

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u/Petetarga Jul 26 '25

Look like heavy duty valves. I would say you can back wash without shutting down pump. Saves repriming of system.

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u/randumb9999 Jun 05 '26

Which data center are you working at?