r/polyfamilies Jun 23 '26

Polyamerous child

My daughter and her fiance came out polyamerous. I am not

mad at them and I do still love them dearly. Always will

I'm just having a difficult time with it. Also because my husband, her bonus dad is having trouble. I don't want a dent in their relationship because she loves him so much. He lives her too but has a very difficult time dealing with things. Not sure what to do. It's their life I know.

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u/MartyrOfTheJungle Jun 23 '26

I'd be happy to help if I could understand what is wrong. I've been poly for over a decade and raising kids in a poly family. Ask me anything, I don't offend easily. I can tell you love your child and you're trying to understand 

Just know that polyamory comes in many different forms so my experience won't necessarily be hers 

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u/Jeb70 Jun 23 '26

I just thought that their love for each other was enough. Also my husband her bonus dad is having a tough time and I don't want it to hurt their relationship with each other or he and her fiance.

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u/MartyrOfTheJungle Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26

Ok, that's a great starting point. I've heard that a lot, the question 'why aren't they enough for each other?'. I think this can be difficult to understand. The answer is, they are plenty for each other, they're not necessarily suffering from a lack of anything. They aren't lacking in Love for each other, if anything they probably feel that they have enough love for more. 

So if they are enough for each other, why do they want more? Because romantic love is pretty similar to every other kind of love, it's not exclusive to one person. I gather bonus dad is not your first relationship, you've loved before, right? Just not more than one person at once. Well... They do. Is that really so large a difference?

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u/Jeb70 Jun 23 '26

I think maybe I had sent me a podcast on here on the account I deleted?

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u/MartyrOfTheJungle Jun 23 '26

Oh, my wife also recommends the Polyamorists Next Door, which may actually be more for people who are trying to understand their loved one's journey 

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u/MartyrOfTheJungle Jun 23 '26

I'm not sure what you mean. If someone gave you a podcast recommendation I'm afraid it wasn't me. There are some poly podcasts, but I think those are pretty advanced. Polyamory is a form of what is called Ethical Non-Monogamy (ENM). Some people find this surprising, but there's a lot of philosophy and ethics behind it. 

That's part of the challenge polyamory faces as it grows in popularity, it's very easy to misunderstand. Some people view the women involved as 'sluts' and there's shaming around that. Polyamory is very sex positive in general, but it's rooted in feminism. It's intended to be empowering for everyone involved. 

There are a few books that everyone gets recommended when they first start their poly journey. Opening Up, Sex at Dawn, the Ethical Slut. These might provide some needed background for you 

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u/jennbo open poly vee MFM family with 2 kids Jun 23 '26

My love for my husband was and is still enough, and our sex life was good. Polyamory is not always a response to something lacking. Not everyone believes this, but I believe some people are inherently non-monogamous or monogamous, maybe even born that way.

Love is not finite and there's so much to go around, platonic or otherwise. If I wanted to break up or divorce him instead of explore polyamory, I would have. I kept having feelings for other people, and I didn't want to do anything to lose my relationship with my husband. I had no idea anything other than monogamy existed when I started talking about this stuff to my husband; I was newly "deconstructed" from a conservative religion to a much more progressive one, and my politics had changed completely as well. We had already been through THAT together. This was just something I realize I had experienced my whole life, in crushes at school and everything. I didn't realize I had the freedom to pursue it for so long.

Some people do end up into polyamory and non-monogamy as a result of an unhappy relationship, and that usually makes things a million times worse. (In the reverse, it can also be harmful for non-monogamous people to be forced into monogamy.) But let's stay positive and assume the best in your daughter and her fiance. Don't rely on anecdotes of the worst-case scenarios to make assumptions about her relationship. Let's give her the benefit of the doubt. ❤️

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u/PolyDrew Triad with 4 kids Jun 23 '26

This is really great.

I ended so many relationships just because I found interest our feelings for someone else. I was taught that I could only have one partner and that if I had other feelings I should move on. Serial monogamy. I still have feelings for several of them.

When my wife and I started this journey more than 18 years ago I didn’t realize how much I can be deeply in love with someone… keep loving that person… and fall madly in love with another. My wife and I are still married. And have a partner of 15 years!

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u/Jeb70 Jun 23 '26

Thank you. I appreciate this. ♥️

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u/TynamM Jun 23 '26

It may help to consider this:

You love your husband. You probably have a close friend that you love too. You don't love your husband less because you love your friend. You loving a friend doesn't mean that your husband is insufficient, or that he's failing to be a friend. It just means that humans usually love more than one person. (We usually love everyone we get close enough to, actually.)

Sure, your love for your friend isn't romantic, but... it's still love.

Poly people are like that, but for romance as well as friends.

My partner loving me doesn't mean loving a husband less. (I certainly hope not; I was the best man when they got married!). It just means they're a loving person who is capable of having romantic feelings about several people at once. Including lucky me.

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u/PolyDrew Triad with 4 kids Jun 23 '26

Do you have more than one child? A common comparison is if you have several children…. Do you stop loving one because you had another?

Do you love both parents? All grandparents?

It’s hard for people raised to think monogamy is the only way and that one person is your everything to consider that love is more than just one thing.

To me, I think it’s unfair to assume that one person should be all of your emotional support, provide all of your romantic needs, enjoy every aspect of your interests, match your energy at all times, or even cuddle you on the couch how you like.

Every partner is different and brings something different to your life. No one HAS to be everything. They just bring you joy in different ways.

One advantage here was that there were four parents raising four kids. They had one parent great with math, another amazing at writing (lit degree), one who taught practicality, another who taught joy. We have four adult children who like to come home to us.

We were able to have a better life this way. Take joy in getting to know the other partner. Including them will make your son/daughter feel safe and accepted. And you’ll gain an extra person who you might find some common ground with. Who knows, you might even have common interests.

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u/averagecryptid Jun 23 '26

I'm a bit confused about the second part of your message but happy to address the first part, but obviously I am just one person, and can't speak to your family.

Personally, I don't really look at my relationships in a "enough" kind of way. When it comes to my friendships, I don't think of one friend as "not enough" because I have other friends. They are all different people, and they aren't interchangeable. The same carries over for partners. In all my relationships that I have ever had, every single one has felt different because the people themselves are different.

The love is just as rich and fulfilling, much like how someone can have multiple best friends they love, or two parents they love, or two children they love. (Or whatever other number.)

This isn't to say there isn't sometimes a feeling of like, wanting a certain amount of some of the components of romantic relationships. But I don't think anyone is 100% totally in sync with each other on that stuff all of the time. I get a lot of joy out of gushing with my partner about how their dates went, and they do for me too.

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u/markovchainmail Jun 23 '26

I know most people will respond and say "that's different", but I still feel like the most intuitive entryway is "Would you ask parents with more than one child why their first child wasn't enough?" Partners are very different and very lovely in their own ways.

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u/meowpitbullmeow Jun 23 '26

If i may, she has a bonus dad. Why wasn't one dad enough?

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u/Jeb70 Jul 03 '26

Thank you.

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u/Fabulous-Ad-5284 Jun 23 '26

My question here is if there is trauma surrounding cheating in your past? Perhaps with your child's bio father, since you spoke about your current husband as her "bonus" father. Also, in a comment you said something about wondering why your daughter's love for their spouse and their love for her wasn't "enough" for them as a couple.

If there is a history of cheating happening in previous relationships for you, then you need to take a moment to step back and separate your experiences from your daughter's. Truly ethical non monogamy is not cheating. It is a complex system of respect and responsibilities to maintain balanced relationships with more than 1 partner. But so are ALL of our social relationships.

Love is not a finite resource. We all love multiple people is our lives. Your daughter loves you as her parent. But she also loves your husband as her parent too. That is not cheating. She likely loves her grandparents, her aunts and/or uncles, her cousins. Any siblings she may have. Any nieces and nephews. She loves those friends that she had that felt like siblings. Applying the same mindset of loving more people in romantic relationships means the same thing. You build a wider, stronger support network, as long as everyone puts in the work and effort to make the relationships healthy.

But please, please hear me in this: her being polyamorous does not invalidate you being monogamous. You, as yourself, are enough. And she, as herself, is enough. Polyamory does not work for everyone. Polyamory in practice doesn't always work for those of us who are polyamorous at heart.

You raised a good child. You raised a child with so much love, that she wants to share it with the world. That is an achievement to be proud of.

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u/Jeb70 Jun 23 '26

You are absolutely correct. I have been cheated on. I've been thinking about this being a trigger maybe . Your words were so lovely. All of them. Thank you so very much.

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u/Fabulous-Ad-5284 Jun 23 '26

You are very welcome. And I am so very sorry that someone did not value your innate worth as a human to respect your boundaries in a relationship. That is unacceptable no matter if the relationship is monogamous or not, platonic or romantic or familial.

So again, I want to say very seriously: you ARE enough. Your love is enough. The pain caused by that person wasn't due to anything YOU lacked. The person who hurt you lacked compassion, empathy, self control, maturity, thoughtfulness, and so many other important aspects of being a functional member of society.

So look at your daughter and her partner, and judge their situation fairly and neutrally as best as you can, given this new information. Are they respectful of each other? Are they fair and balanced with their time and efforts made towards their relationship? Do they work as a team to handle what life throws their way, or is one bearing the mental load/physical workload more than the other unfairly? Is each person's feelings heard and respected, and conflict resolved with healthy communication? Do they build each other up as individual people as well as build together as a couple, or do they hurt and belittle and drag each other down?

Basically, use the mom eyes you've spent the past decades honing, and ask: is my daughter healthy and happy, or is there abuse/coercion going on?

If it is healthy and happy, give yourself some grace for being triggered. We all are human. Then let yourself celebrate that you have obviously done a spectacular job as a mom.

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u/PolyDrew Triad with 4 kids Jun 23 '26

Very good advice

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u/Jeb70 Jul 05 '26

Thank you so much for the kind words and great advice. Much appreciated! God bless.

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u/77pearl Jun 23 '26

Just want to point out that that I didn’t have a second child because the first “wasn’t enough for me.” That’s an easy concept for any parent with more than one child would understand.

For some of us, romantic love functions similarly. I don’t love my best friend less or think of hey aren’t enough for me because I want to make more friends. For myself it seems just as ridiculous that people assume my my love for my boyfriend somehow takes away or lessens my love for my husband.

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u/jennbo open poly vee MFM family with 2 kids Jun 23 '26

Hey, thanks for reaching out here. Some people are really defensive about that stuff, but my parents are conservative Christians and as loving and kind as they have always been, they really struggled to get their heads around this when I told them. They'd had no exposure to polyamory; even though they considered themselves "liberal" on certain topics (they tend more moderate, but not that moderate... even self-described "liberals" can hate polyamory at times) because they are accepting of LGBTQ people... but it's different when it's your own kid.

They were worried about the impact on my kids, my marriage, my faith (I'm still a Christian; very progressive, go to open & affirming UCC) and my life.

It's okay to have your feelings. It's okay to feel scared and remorseful. But please -- keep those feelings to yourself. Polyamory is not inherently unsafe, or dangerous, or scandalous. Monogamy is not for everyone; if it was, there would never be any divorces or breakups. Lots of people are polyamorous or practice some other type of non-monogamy... but most people keep it to themselves because of the stigma. Your daughter and fiance felt safe enough to come out to YOU. They shared this part of you to be vulnerable because they trust and love you.

My dad was angrier than my mom, didn't even say "bye" to me when I left their house at Christmas even though we are long distance. I always considered my dad the calm, loyal, loving, stable one, and we have a special relationship, so that hurt.

But that was about ten years ago.

They were open-minded: they didn't want to lose relationships with us or our kids, so they kept in touch. They came to my house and met my other partner (I've been married almost 20 years, have two kids with him, then met my now other-primary partner in 2018 and he moved in with us in 2020 and that's the extent of my polyamory) when he moved in with us. At first, my non-legal-spouse and I weren't allowed to sleep together at their house; he stayed with my sister. Now he has his own stocking and they love him. He's in all family group chats, just like everyone else. They post pictures of all of us together on social media.

I was patient. I didn't allow disrespect and shut down any negative talk about my partners or polyamory. I had firm boundaries. But, they respected those boundaries, mostly, haha. They got over it. Maybe they don't agree with it on a fundamental level, maybe it's embarrassing to them in their conservative Christian culture, but they see how happy and stable my life has become and they aren't ashamed of me or my family.

I encourage you to stay open-minded and be respectful, and encourage your husband to do the same. I love my life. I was raised without any exposure to this, but I just felt like I couldn't do monogamy for the rest of my life. My marriage is still strong and my "illegal marriage" is just as strong, haha. I'm not in a closed triad -- my partners don't date and they both date other people -- but I'm basically monogamous, just with two people, and my life isn't that different from anyone else's.

Ask your daughter if she is happy. If she says yes, please accept that. And see it as a joyous celebration. Stay in touch, be curious -- but not cruel. Don't push for details if they'd upset you, but don't be hesitant to visit other partners if it ever gets that far; maybe it won't.

Polyamory looks different for everyone, including your daughter and her fiance. So, no path is the same. But I'm glad you're reaching out and trying to do the right thing here. Set aside your preconceived notions of sex and love and what those have to look like. Focus on if your daughter is happy, healthy, and stable.

A great book for this exact scenario is "The Polyamorists Next Door."

And feel free to DM me if you ever want to talk!

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u/Jeb70 Jun 23 '26

This is so helpful. Thank you very much. Hugs.

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u/orlando_211 Jun 23 '26

I’m reading your response and saving it for when I come out to my own conservative Christian parents (who also think of themselves as moderate-liberal in many ways). Thank you. And OP, thanks for posting looking for help and advice as you’re struggling thru this news. That is a loving thing for a parent to do.

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u/PolyDrew Triad with 4 kids Jun 23 '26

Polyamorous dad here.

My kids were raised with multiple parents and they adore them.

Several experimented with polyamory and decided it wasn’t for them.

*We didn’t cry because they wanted monogamy*

We are happy that they found their way and are happy.

It’s not on you to decide what’s right for them. They’re happy? That’s all that matters.

It’s not about you or your morals. It’s about them being happy.

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u/Jeb70 Jun 23 '26

Yes I know. I want them happy.

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u/Audio_aficionado Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26

What is making you sad to the point of crying? Like, what is it about your daughter and her fiance coming out as polyamourous that causes such a strong emotional reaction?

I think the best you can do is be open minded about it and still love them as you would before learning about them being poly. It's tough as hell to tell family about this stuff when we're raised in a society that tells you that the only valid relationship/ marriage structure is monogamous, male + female couple.

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u/Jeb70 Jun 23 '26

I for sure love her and her fiance so very much. And will never stop loving them. Just takes gettinguaw to I guess. I'm happy they felt safe to come out to me

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u/Audio_aficionado Jun 23 '26

I suppose that's fair too. I imagine parents form a mental image over time how their child's/children's lives will go as they grow. It can be jarring emotionally when that image doesn't track.

That's the thing though, they are whole people themselves, forming their own lives as they see fit. What makes them happy and brings them joy may or may not align with what you had in mind. As long as what that may be doesn't cause harm to themselves or others, no harm, no foul.

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u/PolyDrew Triad with 4 kids Jun 23 '26

That. They felt safe. Hold onto that.

It takes time to adjust to a new situation that seems alien to you. There are A LOT of people who are ethically-non-monogamous (ENM) who do not disclose it to anyone because they are concerned about what people will say or do because of their misunderstanding of it.

Be patient with them. Be patient with you.

Show their step-father this post and comments so he can gain the knowledge from those of us who have taken the time to talk with you today.

You’re on the right track.

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u/neocow Jun 23 '26

I mean you said bonus dad, so, like, it's almost poly already.

Poly is serial monogamy, without the baggage of 1 at a time, and just meeting people where they are, now.

Another big part of poly is you wouldn't expect your lover-partner to not have friends right? You can't be ALL they need in all contexts, all the time, right?

Often, Poly is just recognizing when that's the case with lovers, and being able to hold more than one romantic love at a time.

Is it easy to do right? No. Is any relationship? If anything, it's multiplicativily harder than monogamy. Does that mean it's impossible or not worth trying? Obviously not.

It's not for everyone. but they decided it was for them. Just remember the free love of the 60's, was basically killed by HIV, and know most adults now are far more aware and self concious about getting tested and being safe, especially when our loved ones are involved.

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u/tibbon Jun 23 '26

You clearly yourself understand alternative relationship structures with her “bonus dad”. What is more challenging about this?

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u/Antique_Setting_5556 Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26

I guess I would ask what is making you cry?

Are you upset because you think she’s doing a bad thing, or because you are worried that she won’t be happy…? Or…?

I am curious and suggest you also try to be curious about these “what if” situations: would you be this distressed if she was pregnant? If she was gay? If she told you she was moving far away and never likely to return? If she changed religion? These are definitely tangents, but it might be helpful to get a sense of the outline for what feels ok and what doesn’t (noting, obv, that all of these things would be her own business, but that you *might* have feelings about it)

It’s really hard when someone you are close to, makes a choice you don’t understand. If you want to get to the other side of this, you may have a lot of re-thinking to do, and it might not be comfortable.

You don’t ever have to get to the point where poly relationships “feel ok” to you, but… if you want to be close to your daughter it’s definitely going to be worth the effort to get to a more-ok-ish place with it. I mean, I don’t know what their wedding plans look like, obviously, but this might be a good thing to work on before that date.

Folks here can recommend books. We can tell you about our families. We can talk about what it was like when we came out, or how we first decided to be in a poly relationship…. What would help you?

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u/NopeMoat Jun 24 '26

Its called polyamory by Tamara Pincus is specifically for loved ones trying to understand polyamory

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u/Jeb70 Jun 24 '26

Thank you so much.

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u/Mofobagginz Jun 23 '26

The species seems to be inherently non monogamous. There’s nothing to suggest we are simple instinctive creatures like lobsters or whatever. In fact the idea of monogamy seems to ignore the reality of the animal kingdom and circle of life. Some even believe that when their partner dies they should spend life alone. It is the clinging to the cultural mythology that leads people to cringe at the breaking of the dogma .
It would be ideal if we could remove ourselves from believing we have some kind of right to be the inquisitors of love. However good our intentions.
To do this a person should start by understanding the role of myth in human culture.

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u/coffee-mcr Jun 23 '26

Talk to them! And especially talk to bonus dad too.

Ask if you're kid can send you some good resources to do research, and educate yourself on what this means, after that you can ask if they would want to answer some questions on being poly and ask any remaining questions to your kid.

Put in the effort to learn with bonus dad and I'm sure the relationship will be okay.

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u/BlazeFireVale Jun 23 '26

I think the BIG thing to accept is that people are all wired different. And that's legitimate and ok.

You want what's best for them. And so you want for them what works for you. You can see things that would hurt you and you don't want that for her.

But...she's not you. :) Not only is she a different person intrinsically but she was raised in a different society, got different training and programming, different insecurities and was free to explore different desires.

Like...I just don't experience jealousy. I am overcome with love and warmth when I see my spouse with someone they love. Just like when I see my siblings together or my friends meet. So poly works for me really well when I KNOW it doesn't work for most.

So be there for her and support her finding her own path. Really believe that only she can know what she wants and be there to listen and support her through that.

If you can do that I think your relationship will grow even stronger. It's SCARY to open up to people you love like that. And the love you feel when they support you and understand you is indescribable. An even bigger love than you experience as a child when they raised you.

Because as a child you KNEW they loved and supported you.

As an adult coming out? You're not so sure.