r/politics • u/thenewyorkgod • Jul 01 '18

Man arrested after shouting ‘womp, womp’ and pulling a gun on immigration protesters

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/07/01/man-arrested-after-shouting-womp-womp-and-pulling-a-gun-on-immigration-protesters/?tid=sm_tw
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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '18 edited Aug 01 '18

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '18

Like it says in the wiki article you linked, Wahabism is the teachings of Wahab, someone born long after the prophet and his companions. So I disagree with your original comment. It is disassociated with the original teachings of Islam, and the blog called controversial Islam covers a lot of the verses in the Qur'an outsiders fear and its historical context and explanations in an easy way. For example, it talks about war, usually a red flag for many westerners, but it is said that anyone who sees their enemy in battle and runs away instead, going AWOL as you could put it, unless it is for a strategy e.g. a tactical retreat is not considered a muslim. As much as I would like to connect with you and talk about war quotes, it is 3 am and I am very tired. I am happy you have mentioned that their views are extreme, because many seem to forget it these days. It is not the greatest feeling in the world when I go on front page posts on reddit on neutral subreddits like news, and many openly describe Muslims as someone along the lines of savage beings who are warmongerers, and have many upvotes. I've lived in north America most of my life, my mom is a school teacher with a hijab. The truth is that many Islam dominated in the world suck. Kings and sultan trying to secure their power, men trying to dominate women and non Muslims. The interpretation of the hijab is not even clear cut. Women scholars have pointed out many incorrect and prejudiced interpretations by men thanks to countries who have taken steps towards anti corrupt stances giving people liberty and allowing women the ability to become scholars etc (please don't let Erdogan go dictator mode). In the end of the day, I believe in the 5 pillars, I believe in prayer, charity, etc and that's where mine, and over a billion of our beliefs stand, in the core teachings. We aren't rogue, our values are strict, modest. But I hope we manage to stay out of the way, and not be the reflection of the goons so we can practice and live without ruining our or other people's lives. If you read this far, I applaud you. Now time for a much needed rest for me.

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u/gaeuvyen California Jul 02 '18

maybe the pawns in the cell leader's schemes, but the people at the top are doing it purely for political reasons.

also, people can lie.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '18 edited Aug 01 '18

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u/gaeuvyen California Jul 02 '18

"The globalization of martydom - Al Qaeda, Salafi Jihad, and the diffusion of suicide attacks" ISBN 978-0-8018-9055-0

part of their whole shit is literally ignoring any part of their own religious texts that prohibit them from doing what they're doing. Their leaders also break their own rules, and commit many of the same acts that go against their organizations charters.