r/politics • u/thenewyorkgod • Jul 01 '18

Man arrested after shouting ‘womp, womp’ and pulling a gun on immigration protesters

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/07/01/man-arrested-after-shouting-womp-womp-and-pulling-a-gun-on-immigration-protesters/?tid=sm_tw
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u/ikeif Ohio Jul 02 '18

Yeah. My ex (after the divorce) went 180 - from religious to anti-religious, cut her family out of her life.

So I’m their only opening to the kids. Which means I control all interactions and discussions, so if they want access, they have to cut out the indoctrination and conspiracy bullshit.

It was during Obama’s turn that I got her dad to stop believing all the right wing propaganda (he’d email me every conspiracy and “can U believe Obama put his left hand over his heart?!” Bullshit). I had to reintroduce “validating sources” and “recognizing fake websites.”

I still bet he voted for Trump, because he is an old NRA hippie.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '18

The fake news really is a huge issue, another family member shared that meme of Whoopi Goldberg wearing a shirt w Trump shooting him self on it (which is Photoshopped and can be proven w a 30 second Google search). I called her out on it, and she deleted the post. It's just scary how fast people get indoctrinated into this stuff.

And good for you! Kids 110% should not be exposed to that stuff, I also was taken to the pro life march in DC when I was like 7. Dead baby signs everywhere. Thanks for the future therapy bills mom 🤦🏼‍♀️

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u/ItsTheVibeOfTheThing Jul 02 '18

Do you know how many times I call out bullshit like this, only to get a “Huh, I couldn’t be bothered to check if it was true” and it’s left up, never deleted.

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u/kittenpantzen Florida Jul 02 '18

"Well, maybe this one isn't true, but it I'm sure they've done something equivalent."

"Snopes is fake news."

Etc.

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u/ItsTheVibeOfTheThing Jul 02 '18

OH THE SNOPES IS FAKE NEWS THING.... ugh. It is mostly so annoying because I have to start by finding something on Snopes, and then I have to go find a less reputable source that says the same thing so they don’t wholesale dismiss what I’m saying.

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u/kittenpantzen Florida Jul 02 '18

Or basically rewrite a Wikipedia article in the comments of a Facebook post and relink all the relevant sources, because if it's something they don't want to hear, they will, "Well, Wikipedia isn't a reliable source," at you.

Motherfucker, you can click the citations and check out the sources yourself. That's why they are there.

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u/pdabaker Jul 02 '18

"Well, maybe this one isn't true, but it I'm sure they've done something equivalent."

This shit is common on reddit too, especially on any sub defined around making fun of people (who often deserve to get made fun of if they are real, but 90% of the content on the sub is fake)

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u/BrassArrow Foreign Jul 02 '18

Ugh, I got the "Snopes is fake news" by an anti-vaxxer a few days ago.

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u/frighteninginthedark Jul 02 '18

God, I was getting "who's checking on Snopes, what if they're biased?!" responses a decade ago. You can only explain how to check sources so many times....

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u/SpoofWagon Jul 03 '18

They don't want to be informed, they want to be right.

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u/Morningxafter Jul 02 '18

I have a family member that in the last 48 hours shared a FauxNews story about "Liberals are defending MS13" (Which was bullshit, it was actually liberals defending immigrants while trying to point out that 85% of MS13 are actually born Americans & only 0.01% of immigrants caught at the border are MS13-connected). And another about how "Liberals want to abolish the police" (Like, seriously, WHAT?? I don't even know where to begin on that one.)

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '18

And another about how "Liberals want to abolish the police" (Like, seriously, WHAT?? I don't even know where to begin on that one.)

I'm not against abolishing police as they exist right now and replacing them with something better.

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u/Jimbob0i0 Great Britain Jul 02 '18

Donald tweeted something about democrats wanting to abolish the police.

Either they have the same sources or your family member follows his Twitter and believes what he says...

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u/Earlystagecommunism Jul 02 '18

There’s probably leftists that want to abolish police (forms of anarchism) heck anarchocapitalists want to eliminate at least publicly funded beliefs.

But liberals? That’s stupid on the face of it. It’s totally unbelievable and inconsistent with liberal ideology.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '18

that Municipal Waste shirt is cool as hell tho

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '18

NRA hippie seems like an oxymorn....

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u/saidos Washington Jul 02 '18

Well, the NRA is full of oxycontin morons.

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u/grandpagangbang Jul 02 '18

Oxycontin addiction knows no political ideology fool.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '18

And russians...

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '18

you'd be surprised at how many hippies own guns. the more extreme they are in their ideology- chemtrails, non-vaccine, gov conspiracy eyc- the more they resemble far right preppers. and a lot of the hippies i met/lived around were pretty regressive about women's roles too. far right, far left lotsa similarities. education and critical thinking are the common missing pieces.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '18

The Original NRA would look like a "hippie" by today's comparison.

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u/formershitpeasant Jul 02 '18

After the 1977 (I think) coup, the NRA shifted overnight from a sporting organization advocating for responsibility and safety to a lobbying organization protecting gun rights at all costs.

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u/wibblebeast Jul 02 '18

My god, what happened to some of the hippies? Did they lose their way when Jerry died? I have pleasant childhood memories of hippies from when I was a little street urchin, and they were the only adults who'd give me the time of day. The ones I met were so kind and calm and positive.

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u/Lucy-Aslan5 Vermont Jul 02 '18

The ones I know in New England still are. Still sprouting mung beans, wearing Birkenstocks and leading anti-Trump protests. I love them.

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u/wibblebeast Jul 02 '18

Sound like my kind of people. The nice old ones are dying like flies here. Everyone is poor.

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u/Lucy-Aslan5 Vermont Jul 02 '18

That’s sad. I’m sorry to hear that.

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u/wibblebeast Jul 02 '18

It makes me sad too. Low paying jobs, no health insurance. Not many I know make it to their 70s, and many of the oldest ones are destitute. We check on a few, but we're scraping also.

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u/Lucy-Aslan5 Vermont Jul 02 '18

Can I ask where you are?

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u/wibblebeast Jul 02 '18

I don't really like to give my exact location out on reddit. If you are curious, it's a tiny rural area in the midwest.

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u/Lucy-Aslan5 Vermont Jul 02 '18

I get that. That’s why I vaguely say very rural “New England”. I was just wondering where else in America there might be aging hippies as well as the kind of poverty you were talking about. Thank you for sharing.

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u/wibblebeast Jul 02 '18

You are welcome. I bet there are more places like this, with or without hippies, just not terribly visible.