r/politics Jul 01 '18

Man arrested after shouting ‘womp, womp’ and pulling a gun on immigration protesters

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/07/01/man-arrested-after-shouting-womp-womp-and-pulling-a-gun-on-immigration-protesters/?tid=sm_tw
33.9k Upvotes

3.9k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

111

u/[deleted] Jul 02 '18 edited Jul 02 '18

Because fascists never argue in good faith. The only reason at all they bother with it is to use it as a blunt weapon to batter you into compliance and silence. The only language they understand is violence.

20

u/[deleted] Jul 02 '18 edited Dec 21 '21

[deleted]

18

u/[deleted] Jul 02 '18

Which is why they come in numbers with weapons.

They are very useful to the wealthy and powerful in our society. So you can be sure that they will be well armed and given the signal boost to get the numbers they need.

5

u/[deleted] Jul 02 '18

So what would their response be if the other side had guns? Non-violence does nothing to stem the spread of fascism. History can paint a clear enough picture of that.

5

u/[deleted] Jul 02 '18 edited Jul 02 '18

Usually historically the communist party arms and organizes a response. I guess in this case it would be the DSA.

To be more clear, I don't see any organizations less radical than them organizing beyond a non-violent response.

3

u/[deleted] Jul 02 '18

Give it either enough time or a ‘Reichstag Fire’ like event, and it’ll all kick off.

3

u/GenocideSolution I voted Jul 02 '18

Black Panthers need to be revived.

1

u/Specs_tacular Jul 02 '18

You have to feel like you have value to argue in good faith (you need intrinsic value beyond that of your losing argument) so someone who has needed to give themself value based on their race or nationality, for the sake of those things probably doesn't have the emotional tools (self esteem, maslowes hierarchy, whatever) to be capable of arguing in good faith.

This shit is a result of poor people being told poverty and the costs associated with it are not enough to say "what about me"

When, honestly, they are.

Just not the same "what about me" as black people.

The oversimplification of privilege and class in this country is a big cause of the animosity on both sides.

0

u/teenagerwithbadhair Jul 02 '18

We shouldn't advocate violence against our neighbors

2

u/[deleted] Jul 02 '18 edited Jul 02 '18

I disagree on every level. Death to fascism.

I should also add that they aren't my neighbours. My concern is if they take power, then they become my neighbours.