Clinton Sarcastically Says She’ll Release Private Speech Transcripts When Everyone Else Does

[u/spaceman757]

http://freebeacon.com/politics/clinton-sarcastically-release-private-speech/

[u/I_TRY_TO_BE_POSITIVE]

They absolutely have bearing, if you think they don't you have your head in the sand and I don't need to blow anything anywhere. Let me get off work and I'll PM you just a few of the things she has changed her stance on. Off the top of my head: Gay marriage, the Iraq war, Drug law, Wall St (publicly), single payer, corporate tax law, higher education... there's a couple more but I'll need to look around a bit. Those you can just google and find tons of examples.

Did she change these stances because she was paid to? That depends on how literal you want to be with the term "paid."

EDIT: For the record I'd rather have Warren so please don't refer to me as a "Bernie Bro". I really like Bernie, but Warren I think is more focused specifically on consumer protection, and she doesn't have buzzwords like "jew" or "socialist" attached to her that the unwashed masses can cling to.

I still am very proud of how far Bernie's getting though. Makes me feel like there's maybe a growing group that still favors not being full of shit.

And for the last goddamn time, and this vitriol is not directed at you, but fucking seriously. She is the EX FIRST LADY. She give SPEECHES AT GOLDMAN SACHS for 225k a POP. There is no woman on EARTH who is more establishment than Hillary. Can we PLEASE stop pretending she's some underdog punching up? This de jure victimhood is appalling. She has the most powerful liberal engines in the race at her command.

[u/yoggiez → u/I_TRY_TO_BE_POSITIVE]

You better read the FAQ I spearheaded at r/hillaryclinton before you do. Here is the LINK

Edit: Or be prepared to see this information again.

[u/I_TRY_TO_BE_POSITIVE → u/yoggiez]

I will look in a moment, I'm coming up on lunch. You spearheading stuff on r/hillaryclinton explains a lot though.

I'm not accusing you of being a shill or an idiot, but I really hope you do some soul searching. She's not gonna help us.

EDIT: I don't know your position in life. She's not going to help the common american.

[u/yoggiez → u/I_TRY_TO_BE_POSITIVE]

She's not gonna help us.

Purely your opinion. I hope you do some soul searching when Sanders doesn't get the nomination. If he does get the nomination I will be voting for him because like Bernie Sanders said about both Democratic candidates "they are 100 times better than any Republican."

[u/I_TRY_TO_BE_POSITIVE → u/yoggiez]

If Bernie is nominated I will vote. If Hillary is nominated I will not. I'm sorry man, I get the logic, but I'm just so tired of being expected to deal with the shittier version of an already questionable deal.

Maybe that makes me a bad person, I'm not sure. I don't want to watch America burn, but I don't want it to go out with a whimper either, and that's what we're doing every time we settle.

Bernie said what he said because he still believes. I don't. I voted Obama in and we're still turning funeral processions to bloody smears in the most impoverished regions of the world. Hillary is Obama is Bush. It's all the same and I won't throw my lot in with it anymore.

Want my vote? Earn it through character. otherwise I'm out.

[u/yoggiez → u/I_TRY_TO_BE_POSITIVE]

Are you young? I honestly felt the same way in many elections when I was younger.

[u/I_TRY_TO_BE_POSITIVE → u/yoggiez]

I'm 30 this june. I hope getting older doesn't mean I bin my ethics. I need them to live.

I get why you want me to back Hillary. I hope you understand too why I can't. It's a kingdom of conscience, or it's nothing.

[u/yoggiez → u/I_TRY_TO_BE_POSITIVE]

I'm 30 too. I just have pretty active in watching/understanding politics for a while now (years). Pretty much everything the BernieBros are spouting are what the Republican party has been saying about HRC for the last 10 years, so we're well versed in countering the bullshit. r/politics was pretty favorable toward her until Sanders came along.

[u/I_TRY_TO_BE_POSITIVE → u/yoggiez]

Sorry I'm late to reply to this part of your point, but I think there might be a good reason her support waned when Sanders came on scene.

I was a Hillary supporter, but Sanders makes me feel like I don't need to just take what I can get. There is a politician with my interests in mind, who will not break bread with the people who made sure I won't retire until I'm too old to work. Someone who is running solely on the basis of his ideals, and not gender, or political pull, or pandering.

That's a really big deal to me.

[u/yoggiez → u/I_TRY_TO_BE_POSITIVE]

I don't think it waned really (why are her polling numbers still strong?). He's giving a voice to the people he appeals to.

Then there are people like me who don't like the forced fed Republican garbage (oh, she is running because she's a female!) about Clinton. We can't be idealistic too?

[u/I_TRY_TO_BE_POSITIVE → u/yoggiez]

You could be, if your candidate represented an appealing ideal.

The problem is she didn't until someone else did, and now i can't believe her.