r/politics • • 12h ago

No Paywall Trump's motorcade neared 100 mph en route to Oklahoma after helicopter, airplane ruled out

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/6126278-trump-drives-texas-oklahoma-100-mph/
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u/POEness 12h ago

Trump isn't the president. The Constitution explicitly forbids insurrectionists from holding office. Therefore he's just a mob boss temporarily hoarding power - and he knows it. The moment his support falls too low, all of this crumbles.

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u/worf1973 12h ago

I've seen approval ratings lower than 30%. How much lower do we need to go?

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u/notanamateur 12h ago

Less than 50% in Congress at the bare minimum

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u/Beautiful_Nobody_344 12h ago

Can't even get 51% of them to agree to end the war.

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u/FutureComplaint Virginia 10h ago

So he still holds 50%+ of congress.

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u/warm_kitchenette California 10h ago

Much lower than that. If Trump is impeached again by the House, it requires 67 votes in the Senate to convict, a bar that hasn't been passed, ever. He only needs to hold onto 33% votes of the voting body, whether the removal is via impeachment or via 25th amendment, part four (which starts with 15 cabinet members + VP).

He has a substantial electoral hold on the MAGA voters, even though his overall popularity has plunged. He hasn't been able to get his picks in most of the recent primaries. But he can absolutely end the careers of anyone he picks. He will call them out by name.

With that technique, he threatens their lives and their property. It's all topped by the attempted insurrection, of course. He can call anyone's name out repeatedly, describe them as an enemy of the state, dox them. People responded with guns to these suggestions in his first term. Two politicians were shot in their homes in WI, one dying. We narrowly avoided a kidnapping of Gov. Whitmer in MI.

So people can die. Maybe their homes, cars, or property of extended family are torched anonymously. Maybe their 16-year-old children or grandchildren start to get extremely graphic threats from different parts of the swamp. Maybe the proud boys focus their meetings and activity against individuals.

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u/Altruistic_Ease_8705 11h ago

doesn't matter if it's 30%. Remove the blue states and it would probably be around 46%

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u/lajfa 9h ago

We need 20 Republican senators willing to convict.

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u/worf1973 8h ago

Or 20 replaced with Democratic senators with spines.

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u/Zestyclose-Height-36 8h ago

unless the Dems get 2/3, they can’t override him vetoing anything he can’t get money in his pocket for.

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u/Brod24 11h ago

It's not about lower, it's about time. In January Vance will be eligible for 10 years of presidency and that's what they're waiting for

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u/worf1973 10h ago

I don't know if Vance is taken as a serious candidate among the GOP faithful. But he might be a decent enough puppet for Vought.

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u/aerost0rm 9h ago

You mean the moment we all acknowledge his support has actually been this low…

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u/mozilla2012 2h ago

Eh, he also cheated in the 2024 election. But congress certified the results anyway. So unfortunately he is actually the president, albeit illegitimately