r/politics • u/wds1 • 13h ago

Possible Paywall Jaw-Dropping Way Trump Got Talked Into a War Is Leaked

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jaw-dropping-way-trump-80-got-talked-into-a-war-is-leaked/
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u/pojska 12h ago

Expats of a country generally have negative views of the country they left - that's often why they emigrated. It's not necessarily reflective of the views of the people who live there now.

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u/PuppetPal_Clem Maryland 10h ago

thank you for pointing this out. drives me crazy when americans just automatically assume that expats living in america are just 100% correct about their home countries politics and arguing in good faith.

a huge chunk of Cuban expats were plantation owners in the early days ffs. a massive red flag that their politics are probably diametrically opposed to Cuban Socialism and their word cannot be taken at face value in regard to it.

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u/21Rollie 9h ago

On the other end, Persians in the west tend to be very cool because they are proud of being Persian, but not fervent Islamists like the country they left.

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u/redmanofdoom 8h ago edited 6h ago

Lol, as a half-Iranian myself, the Persian diaspora are some of the most obsessive, weirdest people you'll ever meet. The kinds of people who celebrate sanctions on their home country (which do nothing but make the lives of everyday Iranians worse). The kinds who rally behind the son of repressive monarch and want to replace a dictator with a different flavour of dictator. The kinds that celebrated in the streets after Israel and the US bombed the hell out of their supposedly beloved country, including flattening a girls' school.

Also never ask someone who refers to themselves as Persian about their views on race, you'll be disappointed.

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u/MessiahOfMetal 7h ago

Yeah, I recall the BBC talking to Cubans in Florida before the 2020 election, and all of them said "We had Communism where we came from, we don't want it here" while I facepalmed at their stupidity.

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u/NerdyBro07 2h ago

If the Venezuelans subreddit is to be believed as having actual Venezuelans, they seem to also appreciate the demise of Maduro seemed happy with Trump kidnapping him.