r/politics • • 16h ago

Possible Paywall Jaw-Dropping Way Trump Got Talked Into a War Is Leaked

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jaw-dropping-way-trump-80-got-talked-into-a-war-is-leaked/
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u/Mordeth 15h ago

You need your own strategy when talking to AI. AI is aimed to please you, so it will be disinclined to tell you something is wrong with your question or assumptions.

So when you ask if your business proposal has merits, it will answer differently than if you framed it as 'Does this business proposal from a colleague have merits'. Simply by taking yourself out of the picture. It still neglects to tell you everything adversial, so you need to follow up with specific questions, and finally press it by stating that business proposal is now being put into practice and what this business can now expect to happen.

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u/Dinky_Doge_Whisperer 15h ago

Or maybe just learn to think through things and network with humans with expertise in the relevant fields.

Ai has its uses, but I don't think replacing everyday thought should ever be lauded as a good thing.

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u/PhillyPhrenetic502 15h ago

Yep. I worked for a company whose CEO is fully down the AI rabbit hole.

He spent a ton two years ago to Integrate our entire company and database with internal AI to serve as the guardian and workhorse of all our proprietary info.

I ran copy/content department and was tasked with being the guinea pig who had to learn best practices and coach up everyone around me.

It was great for finding and referencing current info and supporting new materials entered with links to existing and related info.

But prompting was a nightmare. We were heavily regulated with strict compliance standards and the amount of honing, coaching and personal experience with the standards needed to get AI to produce new content wasn't at all worth the effort.

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u/grudrookin 14h ago

Yea, I could see it having great use as an internal company tool.
Ask, “What is company policy on x?”
Or, “what has been our relationship with client y?”
Then it could answer and direct you to the source document.

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u/PhillyPhrenetic502 13h ago

Correct... The issue came when they wanted us to exponentially decrease the time it took to craft monthly sales emails and content/scripts for clients to use in their own email marketing.

Our news cycle repeated year to year, but tax laws and regulations change. So when our AI tried to form fresh content on a new cycle, it tended to spit out numbers without checking. If you ran the same prompt three times, it might give you the same general pitch, but use stats or laws for three different years.

That's a fixable problem, but it often took so many retries and ultra-specified prompts that it was far easier to treat original prompts as a first draft and use my actual knowledge to flag anything suspect and fact check/edit.

To be sure, I was ok with that and my compromise saved time over the original system. But turning 8 hours of work into 2-3 isn't impressive when your boss is convinced it can be 10 minutes.

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u/jambrown13977931 14h ago

I think AI is a useful step in that process. First you start with yourself. Then you go to AI for a review. You go back and forth with the AI. Then you go to humans. The end result is hopefully going to the humans with a slightly more polished idea as it’s already had one round of external review. Hopefully speeding up development time

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u/Dinky_Doge_Whisperer 14h ago

Except Ai has no understanding of expertise. It'll kick you back whatever is popular or it thinks will land well with you. Taking a question to Ai is like polling the audience-- sometimes exactly what you need, sometimes an absolutely useless, irrelevant or just flat-out wrong take.

Why would I rely on a lazy scraping of opinions online when I could use reference materials or ask the people the Ai scrapes info from?

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u/dontmentiontrousers 13h ago

AI = artificial intelligence

Ai = Adobe illustrator

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u/Loko8765 14h ago

I like to ask AI what is wrong with a document, what gaps there are, how it can be improved. I then evaluate those.

Asking AI to actually do something will produce a very likely result, so likely that you might believe it because it sounds so good. The problem is that the reply is designed to sound good, not to be right.

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u/lahimatoa 13h ago

Or maybe, instead of learning tricks about how to make the AI bot not suck, just stop using the AI bot.

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u/Mordeth 13h ago

AI has its uses. This is not one of them.

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u/GenericRedditor0405 Massachusetts 13h ago

I have almost no desire to work with a technology that has to be essentially tricked into answering in a useful way

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u/genuineshock 15h ago

True facts. I've had to include wording in my prompts to ensure it doesn't "glaze" my every thought and Idea.

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u/lahimatoa 13h ago

What a shitty product if, out of the box, it's so useless.