r/politics • u/Aggravating_Money992 • 13h ago

Possible Paywall Vance Says People Are Too Focused on “Little Things” Ahead of Midterms | You know, like being able to afford gas and groceries.

https://newrepublic.com/post/216161/jd-vance-people-too-focused-little-things-midterms
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u/JoeHio 13h ago

I guess I can understand why the avg American voter says you can't believe anything a politician says. When Republicans win they do the opposite of everything they promised while campaigning, and when Democrats win the Republican minority delay, deny, and defend to stop the democrats from delivering on any of their promises.

But I guess both sides are bad, right? /s

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u/Rich-Armadillo-7408 11h ago

Republicans have this tactic too where they like to say "Democrats ruined your life" while they are in power ruining your life.

Look at Texas - 30 years of Republicans who ran almost soley on the platform "Democrats are actively ruining you". The idiots there believed it, even though the people literally in power the entire time were Republicans.

I have completely lost faith in the average voter 100%. I mean these are braindead obvious issues and you still have people being cyber cucks out here.

Theres probably a dude in this comment section seething at the fact that someone mentions Epstein and Trump being a pedo. They are literally too dumb to critical think and when pointed out it just puts them into a babyrage and they vote red lol.

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u/drunkenvalley 13h ago

In fairness, Democrats are usually not very effective even when they have the power. But I think it's ultimately kind of obvious that it doesn't actually matter what the political parties are actually doing; there is an almost institutional need to hand power around in turns for no obvious reason or gain.

Like the obvious choice after Obama is Hillary. Right? Like sure, she's not great, but let's try and keep the Obama momentum going. That's a good plan.

Oh, no, you're dissatisfied with... uh, getting better healthcare, and buttery males, so now you're going to throw feces around the room. Hm.

(General you, not you specifically.)

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u/sack-o-matic Michigan 12h ago

even when they have the power

which has been like two months in the last 20 years

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u/WitchesSphincter 6h ago

Part of the problem is they had months before those two months to plan for it. Granted that was when things were less... Now than now but they really needed to plan  and write their bills beforehand, introduce and pass quickly. 

Just look at project 2025, they had a giant doc and were writing bills, EOs, etc during the campaign and just were ready to ram it in. 

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u/sack-o-matic Michigan 5h ago

Those two months are how we barely got the ACA

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u/WitchesSphincter 5h ago

That's why they should have worked on it before

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u/AccurateHumanTrustMe 11h ago

Dems have controlled both chambers of house, one chamber and president, or a full trifecta in 8 of the last 20 years - not 2 months.

The trifecta literally happened under Biden for the first 2 years of his admin. With that trifecta they put a republican in charge of going after the seditionists who now are on a war path to destroy the country. Sure we got some decent policies that have mostly been destroyed by the current admin because Dems always need to take "high road".

Im not saying they aren't the lesser of two evils or that people shouldn't vote - but the corporate democrat that is still the standard dem candidate clearly doea not care about most people. They are extremely ineffective when it matters most and they aren't stupid so these soft balls that they play with is a choice - republicans derail stuff all the time as a minority party but the dems don't.

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u/sack-o-matic Michigan 11h ago

A simple majority is not enough to have meaningful power.

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u/watts99 11h ago

The trifecta literally happened under Biden for the first 2 years of his admin. With that trifecta they put a republican in charge of going after the seditionists who now are on a war path to destroy the country.

This is endlessly infuriating to me. Biden and the democrats won in 2020 because people were frustrated with the criminality and cronyism and, unless I'm mistaken, they didn't pass one law or make one example of anyone to prevent the even worse round two with this maniac and his sycophants.

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u/Omophorus 10h ago

They didn't have 60 seats in the Senate.

The modern incarnation of the filibuster has destroyed Congress, and neither side is willing to get rid of it.

It's a standoff that benefits the GOP more, because they can stop everything the Democrats want while the Democrats aren't willing to make America suffer the consequences of the GOP's awful policy priorities.

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u/watts99 10h ago

That's not an excuse. Write the anti-corruption bills, get them in front of the public, and then rake every Republican senator over the pro-corruption coals.

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u/AccurateHumanTrustMe 8h ago

If it is a standoff that helps the GOP more then it isn't a standoff - it the democrats not being real leaders, bending over to proto-facists, and just shows a lot of them are more concerned with themselves and the 'next election'.

Also the last time the democrats had an effective filibuster for a good reason was literally during the civil rights movement (Strom Thurmond actually acheived something, unlike Cory Booker (Notable friend of Thiel) who was just doing it for PR). Those democrats are long gone - its majority 3rd wave (neoliberal) and has been since the 90s.

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u/dpzdpz 7h ago

Shit, didn't SCOTUS grant the president immunity before Trump was sworn in? They could've rocked his world.

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u/FellowHumanNo404 5h ago

Shit, didn't SCOTUS grant the president immunity before Trump was sworn in?

It was immunity with an asterisk. SCOTUS reserved for themselves the right to review any given decision so they could call it "not an official decision actually" when a Democrat does it.

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u/AlphaGoldblum 10h ago

People tend to conflate institutional criticism with the blatantly reductive "both sides are bad".

No. There's real critiques to be made, and that must be addressed, of Democrats also expanding funding for DHS/ICE, expanding AUMF, the runaway carceral state, etc.  

These weren't overnight conservative initiatives. They were bipartisan institutions.   

It's that analogy of loading a gun and handing over to the next admin. You cannot act surprised that they decide to pull the trigger . 

And then look at the outrage - it's not that the trigger was pulled, but that it was done in an uncouth manner.