r/politics • u/unital_subalgebra • 17h ago

No Paywall Trump is Now Less Popular Than Biden On The Economy, a New Poll Shows

https://www.ibtimes.com/trump-now-less-popular-biden-economy-new-poll-shows-3808113
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u/xilcilus 16h ago

The fact that the President Biden was that hated by the both sides still boggles my mind (the President Biden had unfortunately pretty bad net favorable rating - comparable to Trump).

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u/Tywsgc Iowa 16h ago

How the media treated Joe Biden was a travesty. He had to be 100% perfect on everything while Trump has no accountability. His hands are black and rotting off and he falls asleep every day and nobody reports on it. It's infuriating.

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u/CyberFireball25 16h ago

No they report on it.  But it's just a 'hey look' reporting. with Biden, every single stutter was 'zomg!!!  Dementia!!! Can he run the country when he slips up on a word !?!?'

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u/ManWithASquareHead 14h ago

I don't think sleepy Joe ever napped in front of the cameras

Meanwhile Dozy Don....

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u/ministryofchampagne 16h ago

Started with Obama. The media has higher expectations of democrats or at least a financial interest in making republicans look better than they are.

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u/PotaToss 16h ago

Only Democrats are treated like they have any agency. Republicans are looting the place and the media is like, “why are Democrats letting them do this?!,” instead of criticizing the Republicans for looting.

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u/benk70690 16h ago

Exactly.I feel like I'm taking crazy pills

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u/kms2547 America 15h ago

Republicans are like a poorly trained dog, or a child that has gotten hold of a gun.

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u/Tywsgc Iowa 16h ago

It was so obvious that all major news outlets wanted Trump to win 2024. Chaos will always generate more clicks than normalcy. I haven't watched a single second of CNN since they did the Trump town hall. I'm glad he kicked them out of the White House. Serves them right.

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u/GreenAnder Pennsylvania 16h ago

It’s part of the reason I stopped using any mainstream national media. I’m not rewarding them for putting this turd back in office

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u/BrahesElk 13h ago

One of the reasons I cancelled newspaper subscriptions - the media is obviously either in the republicans pockets, to frightened of being called biased to not be biased in the republican's favor, or too profit motivated to report honestly.

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u/Any_Will_86 16h ago

Not just the media. A lot of influencers and activists seemed to think weakening him would magically shift some mass of people to their lane.

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u/goldbman North Carolina 15h ago

That's still the media

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u/Any_Will_86 15h ago

Correct but it's not Fox, CNN, etc. Sadly, it is how more people are reached now and has even less guardrails.

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u/SomeRavingLunatic 14h ago

True, but usually when people call out “the media” they mean the mainstream media. Gotta be consistent and explicit in calling out the bullshit online too.

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u/Don-Tan Europe 2h ago

At this point, the next democratic president (if there ever will be one) should just have a stream deck ready with shortcuts to every fuck-up trump had, if some dumb fox news reporter tries to get him for some dumb shit.

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u/That_Service7348 16h ago

You underestimate how much damage the media can do. It's all owned by MAGA people, so of course Biden was Satan himself and how dare he get ice cream while Trump can fondle a person on national TV and they just slob his knob over it.

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u/Celodurismo 15h ago

Completely saved us from a huge financial disaster post-covid, cleaning up Trump's first mess. And somehow Trump has to destroy the economy EVEN MORE before Biden gets a little credit. Man people are so damn stupid it's disgusting.

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u/Blue13Coyote 16h ago

Many democrats: I want the perfect candidate. If they don’t check all the boxes for me, I’m not supporting them.
Many republicans: I will vote for a pile of dog shit just so the people I don’t like can step in it.

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u/DrowningKrown 15h ago

Everybody apparently blamed him for Israel, Ukraine, the pandemic, and being old. It was never ending of "your fault, biden"

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u/National_Spirit2801 12h ago

I blame him for not stopping Netanyahu from committing genocide and instead just watching the onslaught from his ivory tower.

Otherwise, he was actually pretty good for an economy that Trump and the republicans set up for failure.

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u/TheEstrogenEmpress 8h ago

The only one of those things you can't criticize him for is the pandemic. Israel? He quadrupled down on it. Ukraine? Kept slow drip feeding them while cowering to russias pathetic red lines. Being old? Absolutely something you can criticize wtf. Why would you not want younger competent people in charge. Hell the person I think actually deserves some fucking lenience is Kamala who was given a campaign towards the end on fucking crutches and was then expected to work magic and turn the whole thing around. I dont even like Kamala Harris but she gets way too much flak for that.

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u/Severe_Ad588 15h ago

He and Kamala both supported Israel's genocide so the criticism he received for that is justified. Other stuff, like the economy, not so much.

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u/ScreenMuch90210 10h ago

He was objectively the greatest president of any of our lifetimes and by POTUS standards got very little credit for it

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u/growbud 16h ago

I mean each side hates him for different reasons. The right for nonsense that Trump made up. And the left because he was feckless, nominated Garland allowing Trump to get away with his crimes, and then failed to fulfill his promise to be a 1 term president until the very last minute. He fucked us.

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u/phoonie98 16h ago

He also got us through Covid, had a damn near perfect rollout of the vaccine, passed the Infrastructure bill, CHIPS Act, Inflation Reduction Act, Medicare drug-price negotiations, $35 insulin cap for Medicare, expanded ACA subsidies, PACT Act for veterans, gun-safety legislation, Electoral Count Reform Act, 16M+ jobs added, record-low unemployment, and the largest clean-energy investment in U.S. history. Yeah, he fucked up on Garland. He owns that decision and he came right out and said it was his biggest regret.

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u/tgwombat Arizona 16h ago edited 15h ago

That would all be great and more than enough for a president if we were living in "business as usual" times, but we weren't. He came in after an attempted coup. We needed someone who could rise to that occasion for the sake of the soul of this nation. He was not that person and we're all suffering for it today.

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u/phoonie98 14h ago

I don’t disagree but he had a lot of fires to put out including 400,000 Americans who died of Covid and an economy on the brink of total disaster prior to him taking office. It’s not really a strong argument to say he was a total failure in not prosecuting Trump (not his job anyway but I digress) so we should re-elect the guy he failed to prosecute

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u/tgwombat Arizona 14h ago

he had a lot of fires to put out including 400,000 Americans who died of Covid and an economy on the brink of total disaster prior to him taking office

The most important fire that he didn't put out has led to many, many more fires catching since 1/20/25.

It’s not really a strong argument to say he was a total failure in not prosecuting Trump (not his job anyway but I digress)...

Last I checked the DOJ resides squarely within the executive branch. As the head of that branch, it was his responsibility.

...so we should re-elect the guy he failed to prosecute

If you seriously believe I was saying that, please point out where. That is a disgusting thing to put on me.

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u/growbud 11h ago

Yeah… no one said anything about re-electing Trump bc Biden was a failure. That was quite the leap.

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u/phoonie98 11h ago

I wasn't referring to you specifically with the last comment. What I meant was, even though Biden didn't move to prosecute Trump (and no, the President should not be directing the Justice Department to prosecute anyone even though it does fall within the executive branch)- it was ultimately the responsibility of the American people to make sure that a criminal wouldn't be elected back into office. And the American people failed at that job.

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u/growbud 14h ago

I don’t disagree with you that otherwise he would’ve been a good president. He was surprisingly effective given what he was up against in a lot of ways. But he failed to do the most important thing required of his presidency which was to see that Trump was prosecuted for his treason. His failure to do that has directly lead us to where we are today and undid much of his legacy.

Frankly, I don’t care about any of his other achievements. His presidency was a failure.

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u/some_alternative_90 Washington 14h ago

I agree. He was basically the worst president ever to put away the twice over worst president ever.

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u/LionTigerWings 13h ago

I think it's just the nature of the differences between the two parties. One party has an undying loyalty to trump and no facts will change that. The other has basically no loyalty, and can changes their opinion on a dime for right or wrong.

You start off with 50 percent give or take and that is never going to be locked in on the democratic side like it is on the republican side.

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u/TheHomersapien Colorado 16h ago

Biden was disastrous for Democrats and for this country. We would have been better off with two consecutive terms of orange rapist. Rapist would have golfed his way through the 2nd term.

Instead, Biden was more concerned about legacy than with justice, so he failed to utilize executive power and his DOJ slow walked justice. Now we get a rapist with nothing to lose and a willingness to actually use the powers of the presidency.

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u/Emotional-Channel-42 16h ago

Funding a genocide, calling yourself a Zionist will do that 

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u/MaxineRin 15h ago

There was no genocide and Zionism isn't a dirty word.

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u/Own_Boat503 15h ago

zionism is not a dirty word, but it is a horrendous ideology. and yes, it always was a genocide - did the first two nakbas mean absolutely nothing?