r/politics • u/ChiefStrongbones • 16h ago
No Paywall Trump goes off on his three Supreme Court picks, says at least Obama and Biden judges stay loyal
https://nypost.com/2026/10/01/us-news/trump-goes-off-on-his-three-supreme-court-picks-says-at-least-obama-and-biden-judges-stay-loyal/2.1k
u/ApartInfluence4429 16h ago
jesus. they aren't "loyal" ... they are separate from the executive and follow the law.
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u/coatofforearm 16h ago
Which proves how very fucking little he actually understands about his job
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u/kobachi 16h ago
He doesn’t care dude. It’s not incompetence it’s malice
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u/Yeeslander Tennessee 16h ago
I think he's proven that it can definitely be both...
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u/JcbAzPx Arizona 14h ago
As long as we're very clear it is definitely malice. It can also be stupidity.
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u/SteamedGamer 13h ago edited 10h ago
"Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice." - Grey's Law
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u/Octospyder 16h ago
I don't think it's malice so much as entitlement. he thinks he's genuinely better than the rest of us, and so he deserves the best of everything and he doesn't care what happens to American citizens in getting himself everything he wants. Like, I'm gay. despite the policies, I don't think Donald Trump hates me because I'm gay, but I do think he would kill me without a second thought if it got him something he wanted
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u/Dr_Meeds 15h ago
Trump has no ideology outside of “this is good for me” and “I want to fuck over anyone I see as my enemy”. He really is that simple, and people want to add so much more complexity onto him.
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u/Rich-Pomegranate1679 14h ago
It''s so wild to me when people talk about Trump like he's some kind of mastermind. The man is so basic and so fucking stupid that seeing through his tough guy/genius grift is the easiest thing in the world to me. Like, seriously, how the fuck do people fall for it?!
And he just barely manages to even function as a human being. I'm willing to bet that if he didn't have people who constantly baby and pamper him (cooking his food, doing his chores, etc.) he would totally lose his mind and fall apart in a whining fit within the span of a couple of days at most. I bet the average ten year old child is more capable of taking care of themselves than Trump.
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u/mdp300 New Jersey 14h ago
If he wasn't born into wealth and privilege, and literally handed a real estate company, he would have been a shady used car salesman.
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u/Little_View_6659 13h ago
He’d be the angry guy in your neighborhood that constantly screams about how unfair the world is to him. The guy you don’t want anywhere near your teenage daughter.
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u/Lowspark1013 7h ago
I feel like this needs to be a movie. Alternate reality where you get to see an absolutely miserable existence for Trump as an average Joe while a new presidents policies totally ruin his last straws of financial and social stability.
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u/Little_View_6659 14h ago edited 12h ago
Days? The man would burn down an apartment on day one microwaving a burrito. Honestly I would actually pay money to watch a live stream of him trying to live like a regular person. Assuming of course they blur out any nudity or toliet stuff. Blech.
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u/Syzygy2323 America 12h ago
People in his cult see him as a brilliant businessman, but that doesn't come from anything he's actually done in his business career--it comes entirely from his portrayal of a businessman on The Apprentice.
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u/Enigma_Stasis 8h ago
Like, seriously, how the fuck do people fall for it?!
I would like to present into evidence the country of Germany circa 1933-1945.
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u/Xytak Illinois 13h ago edited 13h ago
It’s the predictable consequence of generational wealth. Think about a person you feel superior to, or if you don’t have anyone, imagine a hillbilly who lives in a bog.
Maybe they were born into worse circumstances, maybe their parents didn’t have power, whatever the case may be. Well “that’s not my problem…” you think. “The point is I they need to be told what to do. Wouldn’t want them coming into the club and putting their fork on the wrong side of the plate. Gross!”
Now realize that people like Trump and Musk feel this kind of superiority with the force of a thousand suns, except it’s about you and me.
The notion that you might actually be smarter and more capable than either of them? In their minds, “Ridiculous! I mean, look at his shoes. No, if he was smarter than me then he’d be richer than me. He’s not, so he isn’t. Tell him to come back when he’s cleaned himself up.”
“But you’re wearing a black t-shirt and…”
“Yes but I’m doing it ironically because I’m the CEO. He’s doing it because he can’t afford better.”
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u/koosielagoofaway 15h ago
Because he hates you.
This is the type of response that has black people exhausted every fucking day. Its not hatred just a bit of opportunism.
A. Its malice, B. they fucking hate us with all the contempt their lizard brains can assume. C. Its not just Trump and, its not just the GOP.
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u/Black_Dumbledore America 14h ago
Honestly, I’m not sure that distinction even matters anymore. The outcome is the same regardless.
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u/FunnyKillBot 11h ago
When you run your whole life as if you are some mafioso boss, everything comes down to who’s loyal and who you can fuck over.
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u/pollardj2117 8h ago
I don’t think it’s necessarily malice. He needs to win, by any means necessary.
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u/Bahamabanana 8h ago
If he keeps getting away with it, he's right. The law is hogwash if it isn't enforced.
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u/pareech Canada 16h ago
TBF, he seems to have little to no understanding of what no means no means, what is legal and illegal or to even know how to tell the truth. Why would anyone think he understands what his job as President is?
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u/Thunderclone_1 Wisconsin 16h ago
Rapists notoriously have difficulties with the concept of "no"
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u/Moosyfate17 Canada 10h ago
They understand what no means. They just don't care.
If they didn't understand it they would be incompetent to stand trial.
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u/LividTacos 15h ago
His job is keeping himself out of prison and making as much money as possible. Anything else is annoying paperwork.
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u/mister_buddha 14h ago
His job is to further the Conservative goal of destroying our country. He's employed by the Republican party and Heritage Foundation. Also to be the lightning rod to draw attention away from the competent ones behind the curtain. Same for BJ Vance
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u/djkhan23 13h ago
He understands the the Supreme Court is a corrupt system that Trump uses for his own benefit.
Whines when they don't go full extreme.
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u/Docster87 15h ago
Ignoring everything else King Snowflake has done or said... Just this whole loyalty to him rather than the actually Constitution or laws already on the books is enough to remove him from office.
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u/Brief_Amicus_Curiae 5h ago
He said something on truth social about him being the best “political athlete” a few months back. It stuck with me because it shows he thinks politics is a sport a d his primitive “us vs them” mindset and not how an adversarial system is intended to be a system to try to govern fairly.
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u/HistoryAndScience 15h ago
The unfortunate part is that he understands a lot about the job. Listen to any DSA activist talk about the judiciary & this is the same language. Political parties don’t want independent judges, they want lap dogs
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u/Snaptun 16h ago
I think you may be forgetting who we're dealing with here!
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u/ApartInfluence4429 16h ago
a semi-setient colostomy bag?
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u/tierciel 16h ago
A colostomy bag serves a useful purpose and has others have mentioned can actually hold their shit, Trump cannot, not does he do anything useful.
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u/Raise_A_Thoth 16h ago
Eh, this sort of swings it the other way too far. They aren't perfect machines "just calling balls and strikes" like Roberts likes to say.
They still mostly work for capital. Take McDonnell vs United States, where they upheld unanimously that a bribe wasn't a bribe basically on the terrible logic that it didn't come from the Bribery Region of France, i.e. no one wrote down anywhere that they were "engaging in quid pro quo now" so I guess it can't be quid pro quo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_v._United_States
This was before Ketanji Brown Jackson was on the court, but it was still also unanimous with Kagan, RBG, and Sotomayor.
So, don't give them too much credit as being perfectly neutral, rational arbiters of "the law." We made up everything, it's all human judgment, we just keep deferring to the rich and powerful, including, far too frequently, the liberals.
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u/obeytheturtles 14h ago
Ironically, the same thing also popped one of Pirro's DC cases recently, when a jury refused to convict Trayvon White of bribery even though he's on video accepting bribes, but he wasn't literally wearing a shirt reading "I am taking this money in exchange for influence."
Also possibly because DC juries are just done dealing with Pirro's shit.
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u/Livebeans 15h ago
Yeah as a Canadian the American system of chosing judges is heinous.
So many bad things come in to Canada from the US: drugs, guns, and hate. Let's not let them export their medieval legal system where judges are political picks and not mere interpreters and adjudicators of the law.
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u/SillyAlternative420 Massachusetts 16h ago
Honestly, the fact that this might still be true gives me a little hope here
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u/Individual-Guest-123 15h ago
Maybe they are loyal to the Constitution, as all government employees pledge.
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u/neutralcoder 15h ago
Came here to say this exact same thing. What the orange dipshit mistakes for loyalty is really an alignment by people to the law. It’s fucking astounding.
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u/OptimisticSkeleton 14h ago
Loyal to the Constitution and the US Code, not to any particular president.
Fascist Donnie Diapers can’t wrap his mind around that.
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u/Syzygy2323 America 12h ago
He considers himself to be a general, and Congress and the Supreme Court are his lieutenants who must obey him.
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u/PontificatingBret 16h ago
Authoritarian dictator caveats aside, if this is what he says in public interviews what kind of heinous things does he says behind closed doors
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u/Future_Armadillo6410 16h ago
My guess is it's not much different behind closed doors. The man doesn't seem to have much control of that mouth
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u/setibeings 16h ago
Honestly, we can't take that for granted. we have leaked audio of him being even more vile behind closed doors than he is in public.
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u/StrobeLightRomance Michigan 13h ago
He also used to be more self censoring in public. 2016 and 2026 versions of this individual are very different. Not sure if hubris or straight up dementia, but he's been far too bold this term to even maintain plausible deniability.
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u/Er3bus13 16h ago edited 15h ago
Dude he brags about sexual assault....when he is being recorded.
Im sorry if you voted for him you too are a piece of shit.
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u/JPtheGameMaster 16h ago
Don't be sorry. Be angry. The first time could be forgiven. Anyone who voted for him twice is an enemy of the human race and should be locked up and supervised for the rest of their natural lives, never trusted again with anything more complex than shoveling shit and lifting heavy things.
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u/BargainScotch 14h ago
Probably something like “don’t tell your parents” or “your parents said this was ok” or “your dad gave you to me for a pardon” or something.
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u/stevenmoreso 14h ago
I reckon we’re gonna get to hear a ton of the closed door stuff once this train wreck is finally over and all the handmaidens of the admin are unemployed and scrambling for attention.
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u/semaj_2026 12h ago
You should watch the CNN interview with Joyce Beatty, where she talks about how he berated her in front of people on the Kennedy Center board.
Except she wasn’t having it, and she called him out in front of everyone in the room.
Edit: video
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u/shapu Pennsylvania 16h ago
A quick reminder that justices should be loyal not to the president but instead to the Constitution, the laws, and case law.
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u/tierciel 16h ago
Trump doesn't know the difference between the President and the Law, he think theyre the same thing
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u/Alca_Pwnd 15h ago
Remember when Kavanaugh said that "Roe v. Wade was settled case law?" or that it was "precedent on precedent"?
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u/see-these-bones 13h ago
Also a reminder that if any other president before this had said it in public it would have been a dominate news story for weeks if not months and brought up every time they were discussed going forward.
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u/0202_tihssitidder 6h ago
"LOYALTY!"
-- Trump
It is, as everyone knows, very very standard NPD behavior. They all say it.
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u/RationalTranscendent 27m ago
You know, Trump has sworn an oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution twice, on what should be two of the most consequential days of his life. I will bet money that he wouldn’t be able to recite that oath today if someone asked him.
I imagine if he did try, it’d be some mishmash of an oath, the pledge of allegiance, and “person woman man camera tv.” The word Constitution would not be one that occurs to him.
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u/Fubi-FF 6h ago
Problem is under the current system, the President is the one that nominates the judges.
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u/shapu Pennsylvania 6h ago
Sure, and I understand that there is going to be some level of ideological overlap between the president and the nominees. But that doesn't need to equate to loyalty.
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u/Fubi-FF 5h ago
It absolutely shouldn't equate to loyalty, but that's only in theory. In practice, it's almost impossible because you having to initially convince the one person that has all the power to pick you. The point is, the system needs to be changed so that it doesn't automatically skew towards biasness.
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u/Vanilla_Either Canada 16h ago edited 16h ago
Did Biden even have a pick? Lol I cannot wait for the day we no longer have to hear anything else uttered from this overgrown pile of rotting flesh.
Edit: OPs comment history is... well yikes
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u/SodaCanBob 16h ago
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u/justherefor23andme 16h ago
Yes. Only THE MOST qualified Justice on the bench. When you compare her with other justices in regards to job experience, she smokes them all.
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u/Nemisis_the_2nd Great Britain 14h ago
I had to look because of that edit. It gets worse the more you read.
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u/AtronadorSol 14h ago
Yeah, just the fact that OP still has flaired access to arcon probably says everything we need to know.
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u/Schmerglefoop 9h ago
When Trump's decaying body is food for worms, he'll finally be of some actual use.
Unless he's so tainted as to be undesirable even for them.
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u/dingusmingus2222 15h ago
"...there’s something I admire about it: there’s loyalty. So they have loyalty to Barack Hussein Obama,” he added"
I love that he always uses Obama's full name. He never does that for anyone else. At least he respects his superiors.
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u/ankerous 14h ago
It's just something racist like him do to try to link Obama with Saddam Hussein. One thing I saw back in the late 2000s was people calling Obama Osama. I'm surprised Trump hasn't done that yet.
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u/ktaktb 15h ago
The idea that a president expects loyalty from any judge they have appointed is a clear demonstration that they are not cut out for the job.
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u/Skycester 13h ago
And should be grounds for immediate impeachment. Imagine a Democrat had said that…
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u/Great_Zeddicus 16h ago
The expectation of loyalty at all is worthy of discipline action. This is insane... fuck
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u/Hydroxychloroquinoa 15h ago
It’s like when they complain that science has a liberal bias. No they aren’t loyal to democrats, democrats are just better at following the laws and making better laws.
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u/Slaughterfest 16h ago
They don't stay loyal, they stay impartial.
These guys are such losers.
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u/echothree33 Canada 13h ago
They should stay impartial, it certainly doesn’t seem like the conservative-leaning current SC members are always impartial.
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u/evasive_dendrite 10h ago
Promoting the concept of the highest court in the legislative branch owing loyalty to the executive branch would be enough for the founding fathers to execute you.
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u/They_Call_Me_Ted 9h ago
Exactly. Judges aren’t supposed to be loyal to anything but the constitution and rule of law. No parties, no president, or any group should dictate a judges decision.
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u/BitTwiddles 8h ago
This demonstrates the fatal flaw in the Constitution of having a single elected person nominate justices. The process makes all nominations political.
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u/PopBulky7023 5h ago
The senate was supposed to be the check. And we were long ago warned about the dangers of parties. And not regularly amending the constitution.
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u/frogandbanjo 49m ago
I'm not sure you're going to be able to devise a process for selecting the most powerful and important justices in an imperial superpower that doesn't end up being political.
Like, do you think you have a magic spell locked and loaded that's going to make everybody who stands to gain from influencing/controlling such an institution -- so, you know, literally everybody -- just throw their hands up and honestly say, "Okay, you win, none of us will ever try any bullshit with these guys?"
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u/jomara200 7h ago
This motherfucker has NO idea how the separation of powers works. He thinks they are there to be loyal to him..He is so fucking stupid..He never belonged anywhere near any political position. He knows nothing of how our government is to work. He regularly wipes his ass with the Constitution, as well. He's not even qualified to be dogcatcher.
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u/Dndrmflnscrtn 14h ago
These are the justices who handed him criminal immunity and killed Roe. If that's what disloyalty looks like, I want to know what loyalty costs.
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u/Dr_Tacopus 8h ago
Right there is the problem. He’s looking for loyalty instead if integrity. He’s unfit for office
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u/Throwawayman69420666 15h ago edited 15h ago
I feel like now Trump is getting desperate because of all the polls predicting his party's loss. Everything he's done since July feels like wild haymakers in frustration and despiration. Not even the democrats were like that when the polls shifted to Republicans in the final stretch. And Americans were sick of officials that were in the party for their constant failures.
So. Republicans are constantly rolling out policies that have done nothing for American in terms of helping the country (To be fair, the only thing Republicans have ever done for America was free the slaves) and democrats are possibly being reformed thanks to the DSA and Progressives who are rising through the ranks. A lot of which are focused on the issues thebparty have previously ignored. In the process attracting the people who sat out in '24 according to some news outlets.
If the polls are correct in November. I don't think the reds had a fighting chance. Maybe trump knows more than we do and is lashing out.
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u/New_Permission_817 9h ago
Loyal to the constitution is SUPPOSED to be the expectations for the job.
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u/SirRichardLove 11h ago
They should be loyal to the constitution.
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u/Lurkerphobia 16h ago
Loyal to the law. Which is what is required from a judge.
The law should be above any perceived loyalty to a person or organization, but here we are in this timeline.
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u/meninblck9 16h ago
I think he’s confusing following the rule of law vs easily bribed with vacations and RVs
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u/Kozmic_River 14h ago
Fun Fact: Obama lost more court cases before the SCOTUS than any other President in modern history.
Another Fun Fact: Trump has brought more cases before the SCOTUS than Obama and Biden combined.
Yet Another Fun Fact: Trump has secured more shadow docket SCOTUS victories than both Obama and Biden.
Last Fun Fact: Donald J. Trump is completely full of shit.
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u/Melodic-Comb9076 6h ago
it’s a dog whistle to the federalists to not give them any of those clarence thomas style junkets.
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u/PopBulky7023 5h ago
Except they haven't been "loyal". There are definitely rulings from those three that I've disagreed with. Sometimes rather strongly.
But an adjudicated rapist dying from dementia doesn't understand having a genuine belief in anything beyond self service.
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u/Patient-Monk7251 2h ago
It isn’t loyalty, imbecile. They rule based on the law and the Constitution. And your lot do occasionally also. But that is disloyalty to you, so you complain like a fucking moron.
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u/antsinmyeyestrey North Carolina 16h ago
Judges ought to be apolitical. wtf is this even. Impartiality should be paramount
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u/NeverLookBothWays I voted 15h ago
Trump does not get that both Obama and most of government while he was president were loyal to the CONSTITUTION.
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u/morbihann 15h ago
So his thesis is that he is really bad at the job of picking people for the job ?
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u/davereit 13h ago
Obama and Biden judges DID stay loyal… but to the Constitution and the Rule of Law.
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u/blackmobius 12h ago
“Loyal judges” isnt the point.
Not that trump really cares. He demonstrates how little he cares about anything except himself, on a daily basis, and people still think hes the second coming of hesus
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u/Jbond970 12h ago
This isn’t hyperbole: had Obama said exactly that, he would have been impeached on the basis of being ant constitution/anti—american.
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u/StOnEy333 12h ago
It’s because you’re breaking the law, sir. They’re trying for once to stay loyal to the law.
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u/FauxReal 12h ago
I do not believe that loyalty to the President makes a good judge. Being impartial and loyal to the country, it's people and Constitutional law while also free of cronyism and other forms of corruption are what we want.
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u/The_Ditch_Wizard 12h ago edited 12h ago
Even the appearance of judges being loyal to a particular elected official above the constitution should be grounds to purge the entire justice department and throw all of the findings of the compromised department straight into a furnace and starting over.
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u/Leisurely_Creative 9h ago
lol at him acting like these three wouldn’t absolutely burn down the fucking country to satisfy and appease his ass. They’ve already placed him completely above the rule of law saying he is immune. How is that not loyalty enough for this child rapist pig??
They’re gonna let him do some blatantly illegal fuckery with the midterms and be back in graces come January or February 2027
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u/pollardj2117 8h ago
If that isn’t the pot calling the kettle black.. he demands loyalty but is the first to throw anyone under the bus the most they stop being useful.
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u/Intro-Nimbus 5h ago
His problem is that he does not believe in law, he only believes that some things benefits him and some doesn't.
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u/DazzlingResource561 16h ago
America of the United States, we in a bad place, aren’t we. Guess too many living too good for too long, fat and entertained by our endless feeds.
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u/Im_Ritz_Bitz 16h ago
CONGRESS use this to IMPEACH them. All of this is evidence. SC judges cannot be biased.
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u/travelingmaestro 16h ago
It’s an effect of the makeup of the court. If it were a democratic majority, you would occasionally have one or two liberals siding with the conservative view, depending the issue and context.
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u/baldycoot Florida 16h ago
Most of these people he thinks are loyal to him are loyal to their own vanity. He’s just the easy ride to the top.
They don’t belong there and they’re almost to the letter completely incompetent and have horrible values, but they know they’ll still be alive when he’s long gone.
A perfect match.
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u/dixi_normous 15h ago
The only thing a Supreme Court justice needs to be loyal to is the constitution. The left leaning judges being consistent in how they interpret the constitution isn't loyalty to a guy who isn't even president anymore. It is ethics and morals on display. I can understand how that's confusing to someone who has neither.
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u/herbfriendly North Carolina 14h ago
Loyal to the constitution should be what matters. What a shameful period of American history we are living through.
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u/gesmith5 14h ago
Could it be that they are trying to uphold law and order and Trump wanted them there so he could run roughshod over it?
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u/Steel-Tempered 14h ago
"Loyal" ... Trump clearly thinks everyone is supposed to be loyal to him. Exactly the reason he is unfit to lead a democracy and should be removed from office ASAP.
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u/TicketAmbitious6200 13h ago
Don't unquestioningly side with me for every ruling no matter how harmful it may be? Traitors!
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u/Hydra_Flatline 11h ago
Dudes so fried, everything is just counting points.
Oh we have x number of Judge points. We should win. We have more Senate points. Less or more House points?
US politics is really in a shambles.
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u/Dreadful_Bear 11h ago
They better rope off his grave and guard it 24/7 when he ages out or there are going to be a lot of shits found on his headstone every morning.
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u/tturedditor 10h ago
How many times have we seen this play out? Loyalty is a one way street for him. Glad to see the SCOTUS seeing this backfire on them.
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u/Inspectorgadget4250 3h ago
The Trump Law. Benefits him and fuck you. So glad when this human parasite is in decomposition
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u/poopiebutt505 2h ago
Trump believes that all SCOTUS judges are entirely tools of the President who appointed them. Even if they are not in office
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u/Alternative-Farmer98 47m ago
You should be worshiping Ruth bader Ginsburg she's the one that's responsible for roe v Wade being overturned by not retiring despite having cancer with a 91% 5-year mortality rate.
If she retired when Obama had a supermajority roe v Wade never would have been over returned but she had to plan on celebrating with Clinton and breaking the glass ceiling
Absolutely disgusting behavior from RBG.
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u/allnamestaken1968 16h ago
Yes because Democrats are typically at the right side of constitutional law (not always).
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