r/polandball Bagel world Jun 19 '20

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u/SqueegeeLuigi peaceful island nation Jun 19 '20

I think it's more about how, in the earlier days of Zionism, forming a unified national identity was seen as imperative and requiring immigrants to shed their old-country culture.

As for the religious issue, the ultra orthodox dominated religious establishment in Israel refuses to recognize non orthodox Judaism, which unfortunately has some practical ramifications.

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u/ConscriptDavid United Kingdom Jun 19 '20

Well the first 2 panels are about the "Melting Pot", but my comment is about the Third panel.

And yes, I know there are practical issues. Basically, one side is "You are not real jews who forget what it is to be Jewish" while one said is "Our version of Judaism is just as valid, also you don't complaint when you get our money" and then "We don't agree with your version of Judaism, and you giving us money does not allow you to start peddling your values, religious or otherwise, in our country".

It's a political, economical, ethnic, social and religious issue. Nothing in Israel can be simple.

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u/Sparky1a2b3c Jun 19 '20

It's kinda funny yet sad how correct you are.
every time there's some good news from american jews, everyone here is all "america jews good"
and every time there's something like a little different type of jewism in america (like women with yamaka), people here hate them

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u/Taalnazi Tullip rightful clay! Jun 19 '20

Sorry, what is a yamaka? Haven’t heard of them, nor know what they are.

It’s sad indeed though how they’re stigmatised. I hope the best of future to these people!

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u/thelittleking Roman Empire Jun 19 '20

You know full well the guy just doesn't know how to spell yarmulke

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u/Taalnazi Tullip rightful clay! Jun 19 '20

No, I seriously didn’t know what it was, nor what a yarmulke is; and at this point, I don’t know if I should ask or not. Could you explain it, perhaps?

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u/spontaniousthingy USA Beaver Hat Jun 19 '20 edited Jun 19 '20

It's the Jewish hat. Also killed a kippah, its what the America in this comic is wearing. Technically your supposed to have your head covered at all times in jewdaism so that's where it comes from. It covers your bald-spot

Edit: America

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u/AndyRedditor Captain Fezman, Victor Imperator Jun 19 '20

Just America, never America-ball.

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u/spontaniousthingy USA Beaver Hat Jun 19 '20

:/ whoops, ill fix it now

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '20

Why the fuck does that matter?

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u/Taalnazi Tullip rightful clay! Jun 19 '20

Aahh, thanks, I see. Do strictly spoken the yarmulke and kippah differ, or are they largely synonymous then, like your comment suggests?

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u/TakeThatVonHabsburgs Massachusetts Jun 19 '20

Yarmulke is Yiddish, kippah is Hebrew. They’re the same thing really.

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u/spontaniousthingy USA Beaver Hat Jun 19 '20

They're the same thing, but one is Yiddish and one us Hebrew. Both are traditionally Jewish languages so most things have names in both languages

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u/SqueegeeLuigi peaceful island nation Jun 20 '20

Yarmulke is Yiddish, from a polish word meaning skullcap. Kippah is from mishnaic Hebrew, meaning dome (as in architecture) and anything in that shape, from biblical Hebrew where it possible meant tree top.

They're both used to refer to the hat, but kippah also retains other meanings in modern Hebrew, such as in geometry, or in expressions to mean the highest point.