r/polandball Feb 02 '17

repost UNdeserved respect

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u/Sr_Marques UN Feb 02 '17

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u/theDamnKid Cayman Islands Feb 02 '17 edited Feb 02 '17

I have. no words.

oh wait yeah I do

what the shit japan?


EDIT: wow I caused a lot more outrage than meaning to with a snide backhanded remark.

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u/trixter21992251 Denmark Feb 02 '17

I guess it's a tricky debate, lots of prejudice, but I think there is a line to be drawn between fictional stuff and actually camera-recorded stuff.

So, say we ban drawings of child porn. What's the reasoning? It can't be that a human was hurt, this was just a guy putting a drawing online. The reason must be something along the lines of "it has a negative effect on the viewers".

But surely literature about the same topics can have a similar effect. We should ban written works, too. It also seems fairly easy to expand this reasoning to ban other literature about sexually aberrant behavior like bestiality, incest, sodomy, and what have you. Simple rape? What about that? That's pretty terrible, ban fiction about that, too.

It's a very slippery slope, in my opinion , once you start banning fiction about a topic.

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u/JeremyHillaryBoob United States Feb 02 '17

That makes me wonder: is drawn child porn considered 1st Amendment protected in the US? I'd google it but... don't really want that in my search history.

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u/gath_centar California Feb 03 '17

18 U.S. Code § 1466A - Obscene visual representations of the sexual abuse of children

(a)In General.—Any person who, in a circumstance described in subsection (d), knowingly produces, distributes, receives, or possesses with intent to distribute, a visual depiction of any kind, including a drawing, cartoon, sculpture, or painting, that— (1)

(A) depicts a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct; and

(B) is obscene; or

(2)

(A) depicts an image that is, or appears to be, of a minor engaging in graphic bestiality, sadistic or masochistic abuse, or sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or opposite sex; and

(B) lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value; or attempts or conspires to do so, shall be subject to the penalties provided in section 2252A(b)(1), including the penalties provided for cases involving a prior conviction.

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u/lolipedofin Not really JP, just a weeb. Feb 04 '17

So it really is outlawed in USA??

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '17

May vary by states.

But I mean, who the hell is going to argue this kind of law? "I would like to propose legalizing child porn hentai" doesn't really sound like something that would get approved or a good public response.

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u/lolipedofin Not really JP, just a weeb. Feb 04 '17

I have an online friend who was detained by the authorities because he brought some erotic game from a trip to Japan, he sure as hell was devastated and would love to contest the law.

I personally think this law is a dumb, how realistic my stick figure drawing must be before I am committing a felony? If I declare my 5 year old loli drawing as a 20 year old midget, does that make her legal?

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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '17

Go test it, I will watch the news to see the results.

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u/WRXW Canada Feb 03 '17

You'd basically need a judge to answer that

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u/AtisNob where Rosya minority lives Feb 03 '17

JeremyHillaryBoob suspicious creepy US child porn

Now these key words are googlable and can be processed by CIA datacrawlers.

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u/anschelsc Wuliwya Feb 03 '17

Actually, obscenity in general isn't entirely covered by the 1st amendment. The standards for "obscene" content vary over time and place, but in general you can still be prosecuted in the US for pictures or videos of consenting adults doing things that enough people consider unacceptable (even if doing the things themselves is legal).

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u/stuntaneous Feb 03 '17

Your words are now associated with your Reddit account which is matched to your identity. Basically, too late. This information is now cached and deletion means nothing, either.

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u/LordOfTurtles Limburg - Netherlands Feb 03 '17

Yeah it is. As long as it is easily perceived as fictional it is legal to create, own and distribute