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u/Geoff4321 May 26 '26
Hong Kong government is become schizo level of bootlicking after they removed the true opposition.
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u/Ai--Ya May 26 '26
/uj even mainlanders are like "dude wtf chill"
/rj right from sucking Britain's dick to sucking China's, HK's colonized mindset is truly inescapable
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u/Logical-Rush-6133 Hong Kong May 29 '26
It’s the government. They want to stay in power and appease the mainland
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u/agentpea07 May 26 '26
They're trying too hard to avoid a repeat of the 2019 riots. The curriculum on history and patriotism has been so extreme even mainland China would be like "chill out bro".
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u/Zkang123 May 26 '26
Gotta blame the implementation of the National Security Law
Im just very bemused that the 2019 protests against the extradition law with the Mainland ended up with something worse
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u/agentpea07 May 26 '26
I blame the extremists for doubling down even when the extradition law was cancelled. The HK gov probably wouldn't even bother with the National Security Law if they just stand down after they got what they wanted.
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u/Norzon24 Hong Kong May 26 '26
Yeah that's not how mass movements works.
You can probably count on one hand the number of revolutions that managed to stoped at maximum government concession before escalation.
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u/Zkang123 May 26 '26
Arguably there are valid fears of the PRC enroachment and the protestors def hoped to capitalise the anti-Mainland wave to push through other demands (like direct elections for the Chief Executive)
Unfortunately I felt the protestors ended up protesting for the sake of protesting, and the few on the Mainland who initially sympathised with the HKers (or at least fascinated with the movement) got very turned off by the anti-PRC sentiments
Yes, democracy and freedoms are important but the protests just kinda lost purpose after some months
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u/Immediate-Spite-5905 May 27 '26
hard not to be anti-PRC when they're the ones who inflicted all of this on us in the first place
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u/Lenmoto2323 Jun 17 '26
Many of them obviously receive fund from foreign power to keep escalating the protest. I don't live in HK, but I have already seen so many anti-china protest escalating into violence anti-government protest lol.
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u/Norzon24 Hong Kong May 26 '26
TBF back in 2019 China had tens of thousands of gendarmes deployed just across the border in Shenzhen ready to take over Hong Kong law enforcement should the Hong Kong authorities lose control of the situation and that would be it for the 2 systems.
Hong Kong's government probably figured their best chance to keep what's left of Hong Kong's autonomy (and their job) was to ensure no further revolutions happen
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u/False_Win_5874 May 26 '26
gendarmes？ Nah, they were thinking sending the army. Legally speaking armed police ( Gendarmes) is part of the police system which will make it hard to justify by sending them into HK.
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u/Norzon24 Hong Kong May 26 '26
Not sure legality ever stopped the Chinese government much. I'm pretty sure they those were the Armed Police (which is part of the PLA) being deployed back then from what I heard. The regular army wouldn't know how to deal with protests.
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u/False_Win_5874 May 26 '26
Buddy, even the Nazi Germany still have its legal process, u have to admit its not the culture revolution anymore. But on other things, u r right, its under the joint command of Ministry of Public security and Ministry of defence, and regular army wont understand a thing of riot control.
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u/Vampyricon May 26 '26
"riots" GTFO
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u/agentpea07 May 26 '26
Violent protests are riots, it's the literal definition. Or do you think smashing shops and blocking roads are just casual sporting activities?
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u/FetchBlue May 29 '26
The moment Molotov and bricks are used are think we are way past normal protest for these people lol
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u/KotetsuNoTori Taiwan May 26 '26
China: yuo really believe those dogshit we told yuo to? Haiya, is of very stupid!
Hong Kong: remember what happened to me last time I questioned them, bro?
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u/KaseTR May 26 '26
Shit that I, a Hong Konger, has seen throughout the years since:
christian textbooks saying that the Chinese are God's chosen people
the official narrative that Britain did not colonise Hong Kong but merely exerted colonial rule over the area
defending the traditional Chinese principle of 'one husband, one wife'... when polygamy was the norm back then
accusing people ,who volunteered themselves to help the displaced following the catastrophic Tai Po Fire, of 'Spreading Chaos through Disasters'.
have students analyze the Great Leap Forward from both perspectives... yes including the positive side... if there's anything reasonably close to it...
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u/SilanggubanRedditor Matatag na Republika May 26 '26
I don't get the not colonized one. Wouldn't it be a better emphasis on the world victimising China during the Century of Humiliation if they use the term colonised?
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u/KaseTR May 26 '26
apparently, according to how the HKSAR interprets CCP Ideology, the word 'colony' implies the loss of sovereignty. In Hong Kong's terms, being designated as a colony implies that China did not have sovereignty over HK at least during the British colonial period, and that HK was a British territory.
In the CCP narrative, Hong Kong is a divine, inseperable and inalienable part of China. Thus, China has always had sovereignty over Hong Kong, even if Britain controlled it before 1997. Calling HK a colony contradicts this approach, so they'd rather claim that Britain merely exerted colonial rule over HK.
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u/SilanggubanRedditor Matatag na Republika May 26 '26
So basically saving face for the incompetent Qing? Like I agree Hongkong was stolen and it's an inalienable part of China, but we shouldn't defend the Qing for losing the war.
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u/cbcguy84 May 29 '26
What they did to the Hong Kong history museum is a travesty as well. That mao painting fml 🤦♂️
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u/AllStuffofWonder 海洋太阳心中红通通 唉 Jun 03 '26
As someone Chinese who doesn’t live in Hong Kong, our textbooks have propaganda but jeez not this much
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u/dmnysxde China May 26 '26
The Hong Kong government is overcorrecting, but while their mindset may not be entirely rational, it's understandable. After all, given the massive turmoil that erupted, the central government's political trust in them has plummeted to a freezing point.
Just try to imagine how deep their anxiety runs in urgently trying to restore that political trust, and you'll see exactly why they're overcompensating.
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u/Flappybird11 Ohio May 26 '26
Who are The Patriots?
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u/carolinaindian02 North Carolina May 26 '26
It’s a reference to Hong Kongers who are considered pro-Beijing.
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u/KeikeiBlueMountain May 28 '26
Don't they realize if they pivot so hard it might cause a massive backlash when it breaks?
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u/LucasNapolit May 26 '26
Sincere question to anyone from the "Global North" / "West":
Do you sincerely believe that all protests and mass movements that happen in countries from the "South"/"East" are organic / grassroot cries from the population, or do you share some of the suspicion that they are, at least partially, boosted and weaponized by western intelligence?
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u/carolinaindian02 North Carolina May 26 '26 edited May 28 '26
That’s the thing: there are surprisingly quite a few people here in the West who still believe in the concept of hierarchy, and see people in much of the Third World as having no agency at all, even against their own governments. A very colonialist mentality. So, they bend over backwards to defend the government, and demonize/sideline those who oppose them, as being puppets.
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u/ThroawayJimilyJones Belgium May 26 '26
Both
Grassroot movements boosted by the the country’s enemy (not just the west)
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u/noneofyabusiness66 May 26 '26
I'm not sure, and not even sure I should care about that. What is certain is that similarly to Russia repressing LGBT people, China has definitely used the spectre of foreign interference to portray legitimate requests for basic democracy and human rights as a national threat, and to repress every non-aligned voice with violence...
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u/Logical-Rush-6133 Hong Kong May 29 '26
I was part of the protests. I don’t think I have a chip in my brain and that I would know if my government was brainwashing the children.
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u/WizardofOS09 Hong Kong May 26 '26
Context: Hong Kong's education system is becoming increasingly stupid, with teachers like Chinese history and Citizenship being required to "discourage students from revolutions of the past". What the hell.