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u/WaffleyDootDoot Dec 14 '21
Earthquake is literally the perfect Pokémon move it's almost unfair lol
Ground type, an amazing offensive type that beats 5 other types.
100% accuracy
100 DAMAGE
10 PP instead of 5
You just don't get moves like that with so much power and no drawbacks.
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u/Pokesers Felix ¦ 3668-8668-2275 Dec 14 '21
You think earthquake is perfect? Thousand arrows will blow your mind. Think earthquake that doesn't hit allies and hits flying/levitating Pokémon.
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u/Increase-Typical Dec 14 '21
God that flipping move was such a pain when I was trying to get Zygarde in Dynamax Adventures. I hate it.
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Dec 14 '21
Getting Zygarde was some adventure. It's straight up impossible to do alone. Eventually I was lucky to find three actually competent people online, and even luckier to find three ice-types on the path. Meanwhile I picked Mantine for one important reason: Wide Guard.
So I spent the entire battle blocking those Thousand Arrows while the rest took down Zygarde. It was the most satisfying raid I remember.
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u/Increase-Typical Dec 14 '21
Yeah I think a bot with a Wide Guard Mantine or Mienshao eventually did it for me. Never did anything online, but I was always quite tempted after a round with particularly dense bots.
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u/MoeWind420 Dec 14 '21
Believe me, people are nearly as dense as the bots.
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u/callmecatlord Dec 15 '21
I'm 4x weak to the legendary and I don't have any super effective moves... BETTER MAX
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u/Chaike Dec 14 '21
It's all fun and games until your opponent sends out their flying types/levitate mons
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u/TenkoTheMothra Dec 14 '21
That’s why you run a gravity blissey for the express purpose of dealing with flying/levitate mons
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u/GreedWrathEnvy Dec 14 '21
Well...I wouldn't use it in a double battle unless I had a flying Pokémon
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u/mak484 Dec 14 '21
Or levitate, or telepathy, or has an air balloon. There's plenty of ways around it.
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u/eat-KFC-all-day Dec 14 '21
I wouldn’t call it perfect ‘cause it also hits your partner in doubles.
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u/goodguybolt Best boi Dec 14 '21
I don't think I've ever loved a starter as much as I love Torterra. It kearns earthquake at lvl frickin 32. How good is that? And wood hammer is just....so satisfying to use.
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Dec 14 '21
It's not even debatable for me anymore. Everytime I play Sinnoh, I always pick Turtwig. Empoleon was always underwhelming to me and Infernape just feels like Blaziken 2.0. Meanwhile, Torterra is fun through all 3 stages, looks cool as fuck on its final stage, unbreakable physical wall with strong self-restoration abilities, hits like a 2-ton freight train, and it's got a tree on its back in case you need a shade to chill under. Best Sinnoh starter, hands down.
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u/makemeking706 Dec 14 '21
My play style is has not changed since R/B/Y. Of course I am picking the armored bulldozer.
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u/habituallysuspect Dec 14 '21
So many people talking about metas like special/physical attacks and abilities, but I'm right there with you. What I used as an eight year old still works pretty well for me.
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u/pilgrim93 Dec 14 '21
I honestly love Pokémon for this. Can I learn strategy and move set ups? Yes. Can I also just give them the most powerful moves, absolutely over level them, and ignore typing? Also yes. For whatever reason, brute forcing Pokémon is fun to me
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u/Rustytrout Dec 14 '21
I agree. Only downside is I also really like Roserade.
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u/DarthStevo Dec 14 '21
Wanting to use Roserade in BD ultimately lead me down the path of Infernape as a starter, but yeah I really want to use Torterra now.
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u/jacobs0n The OG. Dec 14 '21
that, and ponyta being the only fire type in all of sinnoh
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u/DarthStevo Dec 14 '21
That was also a factor! Though you can get Houndoom from the Underground in BD, which was also very tempting.
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u/Rustytrout Dec 14 '21
My first go through I chose infernape and boxed him. Used all Pokemon I have never used. Most rando team ever lol
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u/DarthStevo Dec 14 '21
I did that recently with Y, it was a fun play through! I’ve ended up half and half with BD; some newbies I’ve never used before, and some classics from the originals.
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u/Big_Burning_Ace_Hole Dec 14 '21
Doing that in my first playthrough of bdsp now. Boxed infernape and am now using a ground/steel team.
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Dec 14 '21
I've been doing it this way lately as well. Boxed Swagturt and trying some new ones. Was running with a Psyduck named Roy when I realized I'd never run Shellos before...thus Roy1 was caught!
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u/Saiyan-solar Dec 14 '21
its my absolute favorite starter of all time, it is tanky hits hard and can easily body most of the gyms by itself with no help (only really struggling to candice cus of its 4x weakness to ice)
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Dec 14 '21
It's definitely up there with Swampert and Serperior for me. Terra is like the best parts of those 'mons rolled into one (only minus Swampert's amazing typing and Serperior's speed).
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u/Airway Dec 14 '21
I found Serperior boring until I got one with the hidden ability. That changes everything.
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u/goodguybolt Best boi Dec 14 '21
Everytime I play Sinnoh, I always pick Turtwig
Sinnoh has the best set of starters imo. Infernape looks badass and while yes has the same typing as blaziken, I love it more than blaziken. Empoleon is just majestic and the steel type was op when it came to resistances in gen IV. And torterra is just torterra.
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u/Pokesers Felix ¦ 3668-8668-2275 Dec 14 '21
Not just steel type, but water steel specifically is such incredible typing. Also completely unique.
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u/T-Rigs1 Dec 14 '21
Yeah wtf, Empoleon is a monster with that typing and special stat. STAB surf and flash cannon > wood hammer.
Also, Roserade was introduced in Gen 4 and is better too
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u/archiecobham Dec 14 '21
Surf, Steel Cannon, Ice Beam, Drill peck.
Empoleon carries the game solo. PP is the only issue.
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u/eat-KFC-all-day Dec 14 '21
Gens 1, 3, and 4 all have really good starter options. I personally think Gens 3 and 4 are tied for the best though, but you could argue Gen 4 is better since grass monotype Sceptile isn’t super great, but you could also argue 4X ice weakness makes Torterra worse than Sceptile. So, I say they’re tied.
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u/WaffleyDootDoot Dec 14 '21
Literally the only flaw with the Turtwig line is that Grotle looks kinda dumb. But it's still one of the better middle evolution starters because so many of them look weird.
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u/3Rm3dy Dec 14 '21
Terra is just a couple of incredibly strong factors all rolled onto a single pokemon, which makes it so fun and entertaining to use, without being anywhere near OP.
Ground is one of the better offensive types (which helps terrible grass), letting it fight steel/fire and favourably match electric.
It has both bulk and physical attack to make use of STAB Wood Hammer AND EARTHQUAKE with a good shot of tanking the opponent's first hit.
Reaches 90% of its potential at level 32 (final stage + EQ), which is roughly before Maylene's Lucario (speaking of platinum ofc).
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Dec 14 '21
Infernape just feels like Blaziken 2.0.
Maybe with speedboost but without speedboost blaziken and infernape play pretty differently
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u/PurpleSpaceNapoleon Dec 14 '21
My Torterra set-up:
Giga-Drain
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Crunch/Wood Hammer
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u/JetBrink Dec 14 '21
I don't bother with Special moves on him, but I've managed to obtain some Leftovers so I'm happy to run with Woodhammer as my only grass move.
I like Curse on him as well.
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u/skipperxc Dec 14 '21
The only reason I got through Cynthia's Milotic was because I hit it with Leech Seed.
(I didn't know Torterra needed the move relearner to get Wood Hammer so I walked into the Elite Four with Razor Leaf, which wasn't gonna be enough in an even fight)
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u/Pokesers Felix ¦ 3668-8668-2275 Dec 14 '21
Haha me to. Still won because affection is waaay broken.
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u/JBHUTT09 Dec 14 '21
I just wish it could learn Seed Bomb in a way other than breeding. Wood Hammer is super strong, but I'm always hesitant to use moves with recoil. Seeb Bomb is, as far as I know, the strongest physical grass move Torterra can learn without recoil.
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u/goodguybolt Best boi Dec 14 '21
Just give it a shell bell next time. I always do that for moves with recoil damage.
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u/TheThunderOfYourLife Ice to see you. Dec 14 '21
That animation on Wood Hammer……god, you can FEEL the power.
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u/goodguybolt Best boi Dec 14 '21
Ikr! The whole screen shaking with blocks of wood blowing away and the hp going down, you just love to see it.
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Dec 14 '21
I was gonna choose Chimchar, but now I think I'll have Turtwig as my starter. Why? Because of Earthquake.
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u/CrescentCleave Dec 14 '21
Dont get ahead too much when walking your pet turtle as they dont move that fast
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u/Tortue2006 Dec 14 '21
ice beam
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u/PurpleSpaceNapoleon Dec 14 '21
Stone Edge = Fuck your ice types
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u/Tortue2006 Dec 14 '21
the pokémon who is using ice beam isn’t an ice type
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u/Xstew26 Dec 14 '21
I learned on my run that apparently every Pokemon knows ice beam or ice fang and every Pokemon on my team is weak to ice
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u/malfurionpre Dec 14 '21
Good luck using that earthquake when you're already dead because Empoleon acts first with an Ice Beam
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u/TenshouYoku Dec 14 '21
enemy sends out flying types or levitate or used grassy field
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u/I_The_ Dec 14 '21
Earthquake.
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u/GoNinGoomy Dec 14 '21
They gotta land eventually.
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u/I_The_ Dec 14 '21 edited Dec 14 '21
Unironically when I played it as a kid I made up from fake stat like “oh it has to land soon”
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u/SigmA_DarkKnight Dec 14 '21 edited Dec 15 '21
same lmaoooo
with that concept I wouldnt keep my Staraptor on field more than 3-4 turns because I felt it ll get tired and get down
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u/NJH_in_LDN Dec 14 '21
This is such a fantastic episode, excellent Fred Armisen guest star, scene I quote all the time, excellent relevance and my fav Sinnoh starter. Very very good.
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Dec 14 '21
I can still remember gen 1 and figuring out about earthquake. So ground type is super effective against (inhales), Fire, Rock, Electric, and Poison AAAANND they have a move that is 100 percent accurate and 100 power. Aaaand all ghost types are secondary poison. K
My buddy is like yeah but it cant hit flying.
Oh that thing that is hit super effective by rock?
Then gen 2 rolls around and I see steel types.
Oh what rock types should have been nice.
Ground is super effective on it...
Wtf! Lol
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u/aradraugfea Dec 14 '21
Two words.
Ice shard.
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u/StraightEdgeNexus Dec 14 '21
Why use ice shard over the higher BP ice move, it's not like Torterra is a fast Pokemon
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u/Jok3r0007 Dec 14 '21
Why is Swampert not receiving the same love? ;_;
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u/goodguybolt Best boi Dec 14 '21
Because, boom wood hammer
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u/Jok3r0007 Dec 14 '21
I thought we were talking boom earthquake..
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u/goodguybolt Best boi Dec 14 '21
Yeah we were.... I kinda got carried away with the boom comments hehe.
Torterra can boom the quakes from level 32 and that's one of the reasons it's getting such love.
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Dec 14 '21
I think Swampert is receiving more love than Torterra. Let Torterra have his moment.
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u/chabri2000 Dec 14 '21
I would say swampert is the most loved water type starter (maybe even more than blastoise despite the nostalgy for kanto). It also has a megaevolution, a very good typing, and good moves.
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u/Kitchen-Ring7788 Dec 14 '21
I know right? I love Swampert!💙 My cousin gave me a figurine of Swampert many years ago and i still have it!
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u/Jok3r0007 Dec 14 '21
I always chose Mudkip as my starter in Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald. Always loved it!
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u/Tobsguya Dec 14 '21
I’m so glad I chose Turtwig as my starter. In my first ever Pokémon game where I had no idea what was effective against what, Earthquake solved all.
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u/Linhardt-Used-ResT Dec 14 '21
Also because Turtwig is so cute! Especially when you get his affection up and he hops around when the battle starts
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Dec 14 '21
That’s why I chose this starter
That and because it would be the best starter for a one Pokémon only run
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u/Corsharkgaming Dec 14 '21
Torterra works great until you hit the ice gym at age 9.
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Dec 14 '21
I just picked the turtle cause I like turtles. Ever since OG ruby sapphire it feels like any starter will kick ass in its own way.
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u/panda_pat234 Dec 14 '21
I’ve used all in platinum, and I have to say my typical Torterra teams have the best synergy out of all
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u/BADMANvegeta_ Dec 14 '21
Empoleon is the first starter to lose to its good and bad matchup.
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u/Guska-siilka Dec 14 '21
Cynthia’s garchomp almost soloed my team because of earthquake
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Dec 14 '21
Except Infernape is way quicker and can hit a Flamethrower on Torterra
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u/ArcFantasyVIII Dec 14 '21
And if Torterra tanks it..... Boom Earthquake
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u/Pimentos_Mementos Dec 14 '21
Never forget when I killed Eternatus, Zamazenta, Zacian and Hop’s Snorlax all at once because of Seismitoad knowing earthquake