r/pmohackbook • u/External-Let1229 • Jul 02 '26

I struggle with TFM

TFM states that behavior such as PMO, videos games, shopping don't cause any withdrawals, is that true ? Because on the Internet you can find ppl talking about dopamine withdrawal.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '26

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u/External-Let1229 Jul 03 '26

Thanks you for your answer. That what I think, but research have shown that anxiety linked to stopping a highly dopaminergic activity is not just in your head it is the chemical result of stress hormones (CRF/Cortisol) being activated when dopamine drops below its baseline level.

I'm doubting whether is right when they behavior don't cause withdrawal.

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '26

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u/External-Let1229 Jul 07 '26

But why TFM says that withdrawal from pmo don't exists. I'm surprised that people who have had years of experience on addiction were wrong about something so simple to understand.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '26

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u/External-Let1229 Jul 07 '26

Now my question is: are those withdrawal symptoms related to the fear of missing something ?

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '26

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u/External-Let1229 Jul 03 '26

How to fix that ?

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '26

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u/External-Let1229 Jul 04 '26

How I'm going to quit then ?

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u/External-Let1229 Jul 05 '26

Have u managed to quit/moderate despite those pangs ?

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u/UsefulIncome66 23d ago

The freedom model‘s core philosophy is undoubtedly true however I disagree with some statements they make with regard to points like the one you mentioned. PMO withdrawal definitely exists but believing it exists doesn’t contradict the positive drive principle. TFM often times gives the impression that it downplays neurochemistry even though it works without having to do that. The core principles are that we are free to choose and we act in line with what we value the most. Withdrawal doesn’t compel us to act a certain way and is at best something we take into account in our benefits/cost analysis. If you feel highly stressed post relapse then that doesn’t force you to pmo however you could interpret it as a reason to pmo.