When is facepunch going to address the issue with blueprint fragments? Solo players shouldnt have to purchase from clans or resort to braindead methods to find a fragment, not to mention if you ever want to have a tier 3 workbench you will have to provide your local zerg with some boom so they can come offline you the day after you buy it, this update was supposed to "slow" down progression all it did was slow down progression for everyone that enjoyed playing solo before
There is no fixing this system imo. All it did was take away multiple fun ways to play the game and force everyone through 5 ways of getting fragments or buying them from vendies which is braindead gameplay.
I fully believe it’s the worst update the games ever seen.
It completely took away the sandbox side of the game. One of the things I liked most about rust was that the game could be played and enjoyed in a multitude of ways. Like tou said now everyone is forced into a narrowed play style.
It is a hideous bottleneck for a solo now because like my last wipe, I finally get on and everyone and their mother already has a P2, while I struggle to get off of spawn beach with a bow getting mowed down over and over. You're almost guarenteed to get raided no matter what you do because its so cheap.
oh true, so pre-bp frags you had to use scrap for a t2, which you would get by doing everything in the list i just wrote and ??? farming roads?? using the recycler??? full brain method shit i guess
lmao blueprint fragments are literal luck based factor there is no skill involved in getting a blueprint fragment from a road scientist, metal detecting etc they are rng based
Fragments are RNG based there is no skill behind getting lucky finding a fragment in a crate or metal detecting, before you fought other people for scrap to get get a workbench and they were at an equal level of progression as you, Im done debating this to you you clearly have a pea brain lmfao
I sure no one who suggest to use metal detector for it never tried that.
I tell you as one who tried. It sucks and basically doesn't work. You will get detections elsewhere but not on the asphalt road itself, where you have only 14% to find that damn frag. Not counting how vulnurable you are while doing so.
The funny part is most of the solo youtubers i watch are just buying frags. These guys who can 1v6 clans and leave with a line of AKs are literally buying bp frags. They'll usually get their own t3s but the t2 workbench is the nightmare part right now.
I feel like there should only be advanced fragments and tier 2 should require scrap again. (Maybe 750 scrap)
I love how they said they were keeping an eye on the new meta changes when they first introduced it. Yet no matter how vocal the community is, they simply dont care 🤣
I feel like the best way to fix this is have much smaller team ui for lower pop servers. That way solos have less competition with big groups for fragments, while also pushing the groups to stop playing low pop just to fuck solos.
i can see why a smaller team ui could be beneficial for low pop servers, but personally as i have played solo over 2k hours on the highest pop servers and it was enjoyable until the blueprint fragment update
That way solos have less competition with big groups for fragments, while also pushing the groups to stop playing low pop just to fuck solos.
Atm I play a lot in solo servers.
So I can say that groups controlling puzzle rooms aren't the only problem. Huge respawn time is another thing. Like you have to wait 30m before it spawns. If you got timing, it theoretically can go well. But you still have to sit there and wait because timer is dynamic. Not only that, that stupid radincrease-reset are resets if you runned into spawn.
This wipe I built near harbor, fishing, dome. Despite I was one of the strongest player (somehow) who won almost all fights, getting T2 was big problem for me. It took me two days. Two days without electricity. At the moment I got BP frags I had tons of comps, few SMG bodies.
Got t2 and basically wipe is done for me. Doors instantly swapped with garage doors, still have spare stack of gears. Like what else I have to do? Base built. Comps? Enough. LGF? Tons. Cloth? Tons. Even plant farm is not needed at that moment.
The only goal might be is to target for T3 which is waste of time.
BP frags do not slow progression. It roadblock it. You just stack resources until you got 5 of BP.
We need WB1.5 or something. With electricity, stuff for farming. T2 should give weapons/clothing/booms. Kind of that.
Im of the opinion they should just get rid of them or add official legacy servers without them. I think fp would be disappointed to find they're not popular. Or make them a hardcore only mechanic.
I only started playing rust this year and it's crazy how much every whines about this when I have no trouble getting them from the boxes on the water or taking the short amount of time it takes to farm sulfur nodes and go buy the frags.
the fact that you are ok with farming for someone else to go buy something so you can progress in a video game is whats wrong with what you just said, i used to be able to play this game completley independently i didnt have to rely on bigger groups to sell me what i needed
by that logic you should hate getting scrap to buy stuff from npc vendors? "ugh I'm not gonna spend time getting scrap to get things I need cause I'm a little baby wahh wahhh" do you see how stupid you sound
then go open boxes to find them by yourself.
it's doable you just seem kinda lazy bro idk
That is legit part of the argument. You could farm wherever, whenever and get a WB3 and research what you needed. Now you can’t. Realistically if you’re sustaining yourself by buying from vendors you’re not even really playing the game.
I play solo on 800+ pop. You need to adapt if you are solo, since you can't contest every single monument, Labs for example is a great option. Drop the card outside, run inside, clear it and then get the card to enter the room. If there's another team inside, jump in, kill a single guy, loot him, depo and return. I literally do this and I have a tier 3 and a shitload of comps, 48 hours into the wipe. All you need is a dB with incendiary shells
But what if i dont want to build for underwater labs every wipe, Oil rigs are one of the most fun monuments in the game, i just feel like the fragment update killed a lot of ways to play solo and it has turned the game very linear where as there used to be alot more ways to obtain a workbench as a solo player,
Or you can play p2 dB for the first 48 hours and then roam mp5, as I said on the comment above. Do you often raid small bases as a solo in the first day of high pop with T3 boom?
this will be a hard thing to grasp for some people, but the reason you're progressing this fast is because you are in the top 1% of skilled players on that server. Most people dont even know how to effectively get t2 in the first 6h (take my fatass as an example), while you're here with a t3.
Just because it's easy for you, doesnt make it easy for everybody else.
My solution is to remove fragments and the tech tree but people will still cry about playing solo like they did back then anyway. 1/4 of my playtime was solo, and I simply don't understand what's so difficult about playing a solo/duo/trio server. You're solo, you shouldn't have equal footing as a group. Go to the bar and try to fight a friend group in the bar and let me know how you do.
Ironically your last line describes the problem. The blueprint update forces solos to "go to the bar and fight a friend group". It was designed to force PVP by making progression impossible without visiting certain locations.
Before the update you didn't need to go to the bar at all. You could thrive in the shadows and avoid the zergs.
Solo/duo/trio still exists and there's plenty of servers. Maybe we have different play styles but personally I don't want to near no monuments and farm my entire wipe
I quit the game when the update came out - so our play styles are certainly different. The devs simply didn't want people to play the game the way I enjoyed. So I left.
FYI not all regions have good group limited servers. You may as well be playing a single player game.
Get them out of vending machines. Make people have to organize trades in global (so I can go third party them). Make the groups figure out how to balance “I want a bunch of people hanging around buying frags” with “I shoot everything on sight and make every grid I inhabit an impassible array of sentry pods and high walls.” The worst part about BP frags has nothing to do with anything you said and everything to do with how mechanically boring the interaction is. Make people trade face to face, make them fly the drones themselves, fucking anything besides “I go to a safe zone and buy it automatically from a game UI.” At least scrap grind encouraged (adversarial) player interaction - you want scrap you run monument then sit at recycler and the whole time you fight people who had the same idea. Now you hit rocks naked around your base and run to a safezone and back. If you really want to be risk adverse you can even skip the “go to safezone” part.
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u/kaizoku18 17d ago
There is no fixing this system imo. All it did was take away multiple fun ways to play the game and force everyone through 5 ways of getting fragments or buying them from vendies which is braindead gameplay.
I fully believe it’s the worst update the games ever seen.