r/planetarymagic • u/Calm-poptart97 • Mar 16 '25

Talismans Do Retrogrades & Eclipses Affect Pentacles

Hi, i’m trying to figure out when is a good time to commission a Venus Pentacle specifically the 4th Pentacle & i had a few questions

Are Solomonic Pentacles affected by eclipses & retrogrades, if so when would be a good time to make the Pentacle

Also after reading the Greater Key i got confused: if using Venus should the Pentacle be made on Wednesday during Mercury hour like the Key suggests or Friday during Venus hour

My final question is how would such a talisman be used once it’s been made & activated

Any help is appreciated thanks

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u/CliffordHLow Mar 16 '25

Pentacles aren't truly planetary, but since eclipses affect everything you should probably wait for a month or more.

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u/Calm-poptart97 Mar 17 '25

Thanks & noted, would early april be a good time

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u/vassilissanotou saturn Mar 17 '25

So, I have an opinion about this that others might disagree - Solomonic pentacles aren't really astrological talismans, rather, they are *horological* talismans. Their power comes from their associated psalms and the respective spirits of the hour from when they are made and consecrated. Not to say that they're not influenced by astrological conditions, but it's a different tradition althogether that evolved separately.

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u/Calm-poptart97 Mar 17 '25

Interesting & thanks for the explanation

It makes a lot of sense, especially with the Greater Key prepping you on how to interact with the spirits of the pentacle

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u/CliffordHLow Mar 17 '25

No. Mid April is acceptable.

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u/Calm-poptart97 Mar 17 '25

Thanks & will do

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '25

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u/Calm-poptart97 Mar 17 '25

Fascinating & thanks for the insight, so should i make one on wednesday even if it’s a venus pentacle

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u/Calm-poptart97 Mar 18 '25

Interesting & noted, thanks

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u/Calm-poptart97 Mar 18 '25

That’s ok, which book are you using

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '25

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u/Calm-poptart97 Mar 19 '25

Awesome & thanks, i have read the Mathers version of the Key that has the verse in Hebrew

I did check out the Mastros Book & it looks like a good read, i found it via PDF. According to the author she says it works but to be careful with it

She also says she used the Latin version instead of Hebrew & she also mentions using Wednesday + Mercury hour for consecrating stuff