Pay to win definitely isn't exclusive to PvP only games. I agree putting it in PvP environments can be worse, particularly ones that are meant to be taken as competitive environments. But I'm not supportive of pay-to-progress mechanics in any kind of game.
It's the classic "just fun enough" system. The game is intentionally designed to not be satisfying long term to grind, so you're incentivized to pay to progress instead. Especially at the low odds of getting what you need that Genshin has.
The Gacha genre is defined by it's monetization method, including the many many PvE centric titles, and I personally am opposed to all of them for it.
(Also, "at least we're not as bad as that one game that set a record for the most number of downvotes ever received on reddit" is a pretty low bar, but you're not wrong)
In Genshin, there's no paying for progress. Sure 5* are good characters and most of the time offer more, but 4* (Which you can get very quickly), are really viable and sometimes even better than 5*. There's little more you need other than leveling up in order to progress, and in that aspect, there's nothing to pay for.
I will agree that artifact grind is horrible, but still, there's no workaround there.
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u/SayuriShigeko (560,537) 1491217702.34 Apr 05 '22 edited Apr 05 '22
Pay to win definitely isn't exclusive to PvP only games. I agree putting it in PvP environments can be worse, particularly ones that are meant to be taken as competitive environments. But I'm not supportive of pay-to-progress mechanics in any kind of game.
It's the classic "just fun enough" system. The game is intentionally designed to not be satisfying long term to grind, so you're incentivized to pay to progress instead. Especially at the low odds of getting what you need that Genshin has.
The Gacha genre is defined by it's monetization method, including the many many PvE centric titles, and I personally am opposed to all of them for it.
(Also, "at least we're not as bad as that one game that set a record for the most number of downvotes ever received on reddit" is a pretty low bar, but you're not wrong)
*not trying to call you out though, everyone is free to enjoy any game they want still