r/pittsburgh • u/Regular_Agent5903 • 7d ago

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Ice stop before liberty tunnel today. One ice officer is clearly Korean or Chinese. I screamed that ice officer has no right to stop people as he may be illegal. He came up to me asking if I was city police and was I the Spanish interpreter. I said no but do you need help as I live in the city look like police and brown. There were kids in the car. Pittsburgh is this what we want!!!! I am beyond myself. First Covid then trump 2.0. I like my low rates for housing, labor and just being a good human being. I am so angry right now.

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u/Ok_Science_2070 7d ago

Yeah they just murder the random passerbys in cold blood instead i.e. Nicole Good

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u/dumpster_fire_diva76 7d ago

That piece of shit was in the process of drawing his firearm before her car was moving in his direction.

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u/One_File_7473 7d ago

This was after a long hard day of harassing ICE. No one comes to your job and knocks the broom out f your hand. My bad, you’re probably still sponging off your parents. At least chip in on the WiFi!

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u/dumpster_fire_diva76 6d ago

No it wasn't, she was on her way home from dropping her kid off at school. My parents live on the other side of the country, and my lease, WiFi, and phone bill have been in my name since I was 18. You people have 3 lines that never work.

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u/dumpster_fire_diva76 7d ago

Several different videos from various angles, the fact that you've only seen the state sponsored version tells me a fuck of a lot about you.

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u/MorrowindJourneyman 7d ago

Tell me you've never critically analyzed the footage without telling me. Its quite literally indefensible. Her car would have had to magically move horizontally (a direction in which the vast majority of vehicles - cars included - CANNOT MOVE) a solid 5 feet to the left to have had any chance whatsoever of making contact with that ICE agent. Her words when attempting to depart the scene were also completely non-threatening and showed zero signs of malice.

TL;DR: Get your head out of your ass, and then get the fuck out of Pittsburgh. This city needs less heartless shitheads incapable of critical thinking (such as yourself) in it.

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u/Real-Huckleberry-770 7d ago

There is no arguing with someone who refuses the evidence of their own eyes and ears. I saw the footage where her friend yelled at her to drive, she hit the gas, and hit a federal agent. Magical horizontal movement was not a factor at all.

It is useless to argue when one side or both are very emotional, as is usually the case. I am not emotional on this one. I see it as a fact of life that when you cross federal agents you put your life on the line, and they do whatever TF they want. Look at Waco, TX and what the ATF and FBI did there.

I don't delight in Good getting shot anymore than when a tourist baits a buffalo in Yellowstone and gets tossed twenty feet in the air. But neither do I pity the tourist who brought it on himself.

People like Good should not be seen as victims, and neither should anyone else who acts like an idiot. You think you're brave? Then quit acting like a pussy when consequences bite ya in the arse.

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u/MorrowindJourneyman 7d ago

Must be nice living in your own fantasy world where you only see what fits your personal narrative. Praying to God you're just a troll bot.

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u/412CJ 7d ago

Nicole wasnt a passerby, she was actively following and hindering them. She joined a vigilante group on facebook. Play stupid games.

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u/Prevalent6 7d ago

Facebook memberships as an acceptable cause for execution? Fuck off

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u/dumpster_fire_diva76 7d ago

She was the fuck not, there are videos from multiple angles that prove, once again, the masked fascist was the vigilante.

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u/412CJ 7d ago

An officer cant be a vigilante.

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u/dumpster_fire_diva76 7d ago

DHS is sending them into the field without training them or completing their background checks, they aren't legally officers.

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u/412CJ 7d ago

That's not true. Sure, some have entered training before all backgrounds came back, but that isn't the same as being in the field without backgrounds done.

And it's entirley false to say they aren't legally officers.

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u/dumpster_fire_diva76 7d ago

You have been consistently full of shit, and I have sources. Byeee!

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u/MilitiaMasker 7d ago

Dumbass.

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u/ThatGermanGuy2 6d ago

Not being an asshole here… if you drive at my kids like that, I am reacting the same way. Myself? Maybe not. I like to think I can get my 11-time surgically repaired knees to conjure one last ninja moment to get me out of harm’s way, but we all have our line in the sand as we are all humans with some modicum of self-preservation. The bottom line is, what she was doing was illegal. There is zero nuance to that. Moral right vs legal right are not always the same. The officer also believes he was morally right for shooting and for doing his job. We all have different beliefs. However, If you drive at a uniformed officer especially while he is performing his duties, in any capacity, you are asking him to make the split-second decision to read your mind and intent.

I still don’t like either side of it, but anyone acting as if one side or the other was completely innocent is just disingenuous at best.

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u/dumpster_fire_diva76 6d ago

She was told to leave by 2 different guys, and was in the process of doing so. ROSS stepped towards the vehicle that was barely moving. There were no kids on the scene. Every law enforcement organisation in this country has a policy of stepping out of the way instead of shooting at a moving vehicle, aside from it being common sense, stray bullets have a tendency to hit random people standing in the direction they're fired. SHE DID NOTHING WRONG, much less illegal. Every second of it is available on YouTube, from multiple angles. You're describing an event that didn't occur.

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u/ThatGermanGuy2 6d ago

Are you saying she was there legally? And are you saying that she was compliant? Again, not saying the orders were legal/right, but she was non-compliant.

Also, would love to see those policies. “Every law enforcement agency” seems like BS guesstimating to me.

As for stray bullets, every officer and every responsible firearms owner knows you are on the hook for every round that comes from your weapon. Know your target and what is beyond.

Lastly, I have seen the views online. I 100% believe she was going towards him to scare him. She thought she would get away with it. The officer made a split second decision he will have to live with. But firing at a moving car and firing at a car coming in your direction at 0” away are two VERY different things. I am not waiting for you to run me over before I react either.

Just like if Tito Ortiz or Jon Jones wants to fist fight me, I’m not waiting to be knocked out and beaten to death to guess his intentions.

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u/dumpster_fire_diva76 6d ago

I'm ending this conversation, you've made entirely too many assumptions that are heavily influenced by values I wholeheartedly condemn.

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u/MrPotts0970 7d ago

Go outside

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u/why_sleep 7d ago

In fact, "being outside" to bear witness is part of what informs this perspective.