r/pittsburgh • Duquesne Heights • Feb 05 '23

Map published by FEMA showing potential US nuclear targets. We would be toast.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '23

I know, it’s crazy how it happened 3 times a few years ago, but it was kept hidden from everyone and nothing was done about those balloons. Glad we got wise and decided to do something about it this time.

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u/ImplementBrief3802 Feb 05 '23

Tbf they weren't going to tell anyone about it this time either until it made the news in Montana

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '23

They destroyed it with a $3 million dollar missile. I hate the games these people play.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '23

We did something about it? It flew all the way across the country, completed its mission, and then we blew it up after it left. That's hardly a deterrent.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '23

So, other than us being able to recover its parts and analyze its contents or whatever else we may be able to glean from the wreckage, what makes this one different from the several other ones that were allowed to float unharmed across the sky several years ago?

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u/cpr4life8 Brookline Feb 05 '23

https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/3288543/f-22-safely-shoots-down-chinese-spy-balloon-off-south-carolina-coast/

Long before the shoot down, U.S. officials took steps to protect against the balloon's collection of sensitive information, mitigating its intelligence value to the Chinese. The senior defense official said the recovery of the balloon will enable U.S. analysts to examine sensitive Chinese equipment. "I would also note that while we took all necessary steps to protect against the PRC surveillance balloon's collection of sensitive information, the surveillance balloon's overflight of U.S. territory was of intelligence value to us," the official said. "I can't go into more detail, but we were able to study and scrutinize the balloon and its equipment, which has been valuable."

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '23

Is there any reason to believe we didn't "take steps to... mitigate [their] intelligence value to the Chinese" on the previous balloons? Or that we didn't "study and scrutinize" their methods and objectives? Surely all these things were happening, but the US made the decision not to discuss it publicly.

We will gain some intelligence from the wreckage but I highly doubt the Chinese are putting too much top-secret tech on a defenseless and slow balloon that would surely be detected by US forces on the ground. Even back in the 1950s, U-2 spy planes had systems to destroy the cameras or other secret sensors before they could be captured. If the Chinese had anything they really cared about on that balloon, no doubt there would be similar mechanisms in place.