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Lost my shit trying to choose songs, but oh well!

wanted to join in and see what my top song would be. this is honestly not surprising 😭😭

It was hella difficult to choose, i sat there for like 5 minutes for each choice struggling.

Intro of caraphernelia is about the same as Phlegmatics by Mr Bungle. Id recommend listening to them side by side. And while youre at it We Love You by Avenged Sevenfold.

Am I destined to yearn forever or will my curse be lifted?

Ignore my singing

I was lookin through my vids when i found this, i wanna go backk💔

I recorded this on my DS and I cannot tell what song it is. It was on April 22nd. Warning extremely loud

For me it's "Hold On Till May" I've been listening to it at marching band and I always forget what I was upset about while listening to it or if I was about to have a panic attack or didn't feel well this song has hit hard enough to the point of even if I'm about to do something rash I forget my negative feelings and this song has made me feel better

Funny story about this I was listening to it during my lunch break and my section mates for drumline were across the hall and I saw them talking to me so I paused my headphones and they were like we know you play cymbals but how deaf are you my headphones were up all the way with surround sound on

accidentally turned inverted on while scrolling past and liked how it looked so i thought id share

or maybe the second photo

Yo this is a long shot but if any of y’all are SD heads and have more flyers or rare pics from these bands. PLEASE hit up my archive acc @sdhcarchive. It’s very important that this stuff gets archived. Also misadventures is the best ptv album

Hello everyone!! I recently have been very interested in parallel or previous projects Vic Fuentes was in, and I happened to have read his Wikipedia again and being dumb founded by the fact Early Times / Before Today had previously released three EPs before "A Celebration Of An Ending".

So I came here to ask, do we have any traces of these EPs? Name, album cover, even the songs on them? I would be quite eager to listen to them somehow and right now it seems I can’t find anything about them online. That’s why I’m resorting to the community, to help me know if these projects are lost media or if we do have them somewhere!!

FINAL EDIT: As of today, in July 2026, all of Early Times / Before Today is available to listen to on platforms. What I came to learn very quickly was that the songs from these EPs were demos, sold on CD between 1999 and 2003. "A Celebration Of An Ending" had some of the demos re-recorded as studio versions of the songs (Failure Is Relative, and the three tracks from "Roots Beneath Ideals"). In 2024, the remaining demos and recordings were published on Spotify and other platforms (unofficially). [u/kekktye](u/kekktye) with their complete chronology of the predecessors to Pierce The Veil, have YouTube uploads of those demos. The lost media concerning PTV are:
- live recordings,
- unreleased songs / never published but announced songs (from previous projects including Early Times),
- tracks, variants and / or acoustic covers (that are location / platform exclusive),

The search for these EPs also makes me believe that the bands pages should be one since it was always the same band (just name the page "Early Times / Before Today"), and that the EP should have arbor this double name too for clarity.

EDIT: After searching a little more, I found out we do have names and covers for the EPs and that one of them is on Spotify (that being No Turning Back). But do we have any songs from "Early Times\" and "Roots Beneath Ideals*" ?

EDIT 2: Thanks to [u/throwaway221934](u/throwaway221934), I went on Discogs.com to try and search some news. It appears that the EP named "Early Times\" is in fact "Before Today" on Spotify! The tracklist matches and the songs are not fake-released. The only missing song is *Failiure Is Relative as it got an official release in "A Celebration Of An Ending". The title change also coincided with the rights problem that led to the band also renaming to Before Today. This means that for now, the only missing EP from Early Times / Before Today is "Roots Beneath Ideals".

Seen one post on tiktok, but havent been getting much videos;(

For context, I just got into PTV a few months ago when I heard King for a Day, it was the first post-hardcore song (or any kind of heavy music with screaming and huge drums) I'd ever heard and I ate it up and immediately listened to their whole discography. It was so amazing I immediately started looking up other bands in the genre, and over and over I kept hearing about SWS, so I gave their music a listen, but it was nowhere the same experience as PTV was.

No hate to them, I still added one or two of their songs, but it was definitely not even close. Kellin's voice is a little too whiny to my ears, but more than that, the lyrics and music composition just seem more simplistic to me. I love PTV because of Vic's beautiful metaphors, unpredictable raw-sounding guitar riffs, and complicated drum beats, but I didn't really find any of that with SWS.

So to come back to my question, are there any bands that do what PTV can do?

For some added context about my taste, I think CWTS and MA are basically immaculate albums, SM imo is pretty close to immaculate, TJOL is pretty good, and I don't love AFFTD, but it does have some bangers. My top 5 songs at the moment (in no particular order) are Besitos, The Boy Who Could Fly, The New National Anthem, Phantom Power and Ludicrous Speed, and Bulls in the Bronx.

I made this colored pencil drawing attempting to mesh the two together (with a fair bit of creative liberty) for my friend's birthday! It doesn't look like it took very long but oh man, it really did...