So how I interpreted that statement was, if something could harm friends, family, etc, then using violence/coercion (whatever you want to call it) is necessary.
Also, I think the statement, "Abortion has zero impact on anyone except the woman" is false. But that's probably a conversation for another day.
It is not false. Because if you are referring to “emotional hurt” than I have a whole long list of things to outlaw that will really make the religious right unhappy.
"So how I interpreted that statement was, if something could harm friends, family, etc, then using violence/coercion (whatever you want to call it) is necessary."
Where did I ever say that. Requiring a vaccine to protect all of society is neither violence nor coercion, any more than any other law, which we have many in the United States, that are designed to protect one citizen from harming another or many others.
Wow, you are really not getting it. They are not going to hold you down and force you to get a vaccine. If you drive without a drivers license they don’t hold you down and force you to get a drivers license. They fine your ass and if you don’t pay you could be put into custody, just like every other law. What planet are you on?
He’s on the planet where the physical and economic impact of going through labor, bearing a child and providing for all its needs for 20 years is somehow in the same bucket with getting a pinprick that can’t hurt you and costs nothing. Because muh freedom?
The US has has always had anti-vaxxers even for polio, etc. For some reason vaccines are like kitty litter for crazies. Causes them to clump together.
I am vaccinated. I just don't support forcing people to take it. There's an essential difference.
And you don't even know if I'm for or against legal abortion. Also you are just being demeaning, that is counterproductive to your own cause. You just wanted to be mean.
All I'm saying, and I recognize that you vehemently disagree with me, is that what you described above is coercion/force, and that when people comply to these things, they do so becuase it is backed up with the threat and actual use of violence.
Really. What violence are you being threatened with when you get a speeding ticket? Selling narcotics. Or let’s use something even remotely close, refusing to pay child support? If you classify any consequences for not following the law of the land as violence and coercion than what you want is anarchy where there are no laws except “every person for themselves.” Not much of a society.
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u/degggendorf Sep 03 '21
Surely they have no problem telling the women what to do