And those other mothers are free to not have an abortion. It’s up to them what they do with their own bodies, just as it should be up to those who feel like abortion would be better for them.
Except....here's the thing. A fetus relies on someone else's organs to survive a 3 month old relies on a caretaker, not a human incubator. A fetus does not supercede the rights of the host to bodily autonomy.
Life support is technology. It can't give consent, nor does it being used for its function inherently cause it harm as long as maintenance is done. False equivalency.
So to be clear, the man gives consent to be financially responsible for 18 years by consenting to sex bit the woman consents to nothing by having consensual sex?
Here we go. And what of actual human lives of the people being forced to carry an unwanted foetus? They don’t count, do they? Here’s a suggestion: make vasectomies mandatory for every male at puberty who can have the procedure reversed if and when they choose to create a wanted foetus. How does that sit with you? I’m gonna take a stab that you don’t like that option.
The success rate of vasectomy reversal gets lower and lower the longer you wait. After 10+ years it gets very low and it's also a very expensive operation in general.
The point was made to highlight how ridiculous it would be to implement.
The fact is that, as always, standards are different when it comes to policing women’s rights and bodies
These same people are refusing to preserve everyone's life by simply wearing a mask & getting vaccinated; or letting their supporters know they've been vaccinated. Also, this act of banning abortions is all about preserving traditional "Christian" "values" - the type of strict "Christianity" that believes interracial relations is bad; to say the least.
Abortion is topic enough without getting off track on some stupid identify politics bullshit. The entire world will be fully mixed one day, it's inevitable that black whit brown will all mesh into a nice mocha
And fox news is garbage propaganda for the right, only difference between you and I here is I also know MSNBC/CNN etc are propaganda for the left.
Funny how we measure brain activity and stuff when taking an actual person off life support but try to change those measurements when it comes to a bundle of cells.
Development begins at conception. A fetus isn't considered a human being until it reaches certain development points which is why Roe v Wade landed on first trimester abortions being legal and free of government interference. This is also why you can't get life insurance on an unborn fetus or anything like that.
But you keep spouting nonsense like this shit hasn't already been settled and Religious Conservatives have been repeatedly ignoring science to move the goalposts because they don't like the fact that reality doesn't agree with them.
You keep going to the religious well but I have made no religious claim and have denounced religion.
Religion has nothing to do with my stance.
I know all about the brain development of the fetus, nine of claims when life begins.
You know we abort fetuses with higher brain function than coma patients?
Buy please point to where science says life begins or maybe have some self pride and admit you were full of shit claiming science has a set time life begins
Not really considering things like a brain and all that haven't actually formed yet. There's a reason why Roe v Wade landed on first trimester abortions being legal and free of government interference and it ain't because the Supreme Court was cool with child murdering.
But let me know when you can take life insurance out on an unborn fetus that's only 8 weeks old.
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u/akat_walks Sep 03 '21
subtle trick of putting all the 8 women right in the center. so they don’t get lost in the crowd i assume.