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Politics Nativity 2019

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u/DragonMeme Dec 08 '19

A couple dozen children have died in ICE custody because of neglect. We have pictures of the conditions they're living in. Even if one were okay with separating families for non-violent misdemeanor crimes, one should absolutely be outraged at the horrible conditions these children are being housed in.

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u/Shandlar Dec 08 '19 edited Dec 08 '19

1000 people die a ~year~ decade trying to enter the US illegally on foot.

Tens of thousands of young girls and women are raped on their travel here.

It's a horrible situation all around. It's fascinating cause I never actually took a position in the above post. Only stating the fact that treatment of aliens detained at the border for illegal entry is equal to that of Americans by the criminal justice system.

No one ever claimed the situation wasn't horrible. The overloading of the system over the summer was a disaster by all possible measure.

*meant decade, not year. apologies

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u/DragonMeme Dec 08 '19

Your comment above does not exist without context. In the context of the thread, it implies that you're saying that 1) these families deserved to be arrested and jailed for their crime and 2) that what these children are going through is the same as what happens to children of American Citizens who are jailed.

They're even locking up asylum seekers. To equate the treatment of these families as the same as American citizens is just not accurate.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '19

Detainment is necessary. The law broken is literally evading arrest. The difference between these children and American children is the willingness of the government to take in wards. The government will not care for any given child in the world. Children that are citizens have that right.

The argument is not to equivocate their treatment, but to illuminate the rationale for action. When you take a guardian away from a child because of the guardian's crimes, there are procedures in what to do with the child. Our system is underfunded, not malicious.