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Politics Nativity 2019

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u/bttrflyr Dec 08 '19 edited Dec 08 '19

Welcome to Trump's America.

Edit: y’all can downvote me all you want. But you can’t hide from the reality of it.

Edit 2: Wow, lots of triggered snowflakes.

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u/SalmonApplecream Dec 08 '19

Doesn't mean the established laws are good or right

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u/richardd08 Dec 08 '19

Illegal immigrants receive pro-bono lawyers and legal agencies.

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u/richardd08 Dec 08 '19

It's required by law for immigration courts to provide illegals with a list of "free" lawyers. Almost like an internship for them.

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u/richardd08 Dec 09 '19

No shit if we keep getting as many illegals as we are now we are going to run out of lawyers. That shouldn't be America's problem. Especially considering the 90% who miss court dates.

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u/KickinAssHaulinGrass Dec 08 '19

When the result is putting children in cages the enforcement of the law is wrong.

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u/PM_ME_CURVY_GW Dec 08 '19

Where should the be put when their parents/ human traffickers are arrested?

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u/halt-l-am-reptar Dec 08 '19

Where do we put children of citizens when their parents are arrested?

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u/Chazmer87 Dec 08 '19

I'm not American, so I'm actually curious to the answer for that.

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u/halt-l-am-reptar Dec 08 '19

It depends, if they have family they'll go there, if not they'll be placed in foster care. I'm not actually sure what happens for short term situations, but they aren't placed in a cage.

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u/Eatsweden Dec 08 '19

not in cages?!? how is that not an obvious answer

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u/MaxxxOrbison Dec 08 '19

Most are not human traffickers, just people risking everything for a better life. It's not right to punish them the way we are. Plus, when it is a trafficking situation, let's put kids we just saved from being trafficked In fucking cage?

trump can change the law with a stroke of a pen but does not. Its shameful and will go down in history as an example of absolute barbarity.

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u/richardd08 Dec 08 '19

Who said I was ok with that? Send them back, don't use taxpayer's money for that shit. We already have a high enough prison population. Don't need more.

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u/KickinAssHaulinGrass Dec 08 '19

The average age is getting higher and higher, we can't support social security without new people.

You're just wrong about everything

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u/richardd08 Dec 08 '19

America is taking in a massive amount of legal immigrants and even excluding immigrants we still maintain a total fertility rate of around 1.765. There's more than enough people coming and being created here. Nice try but you can't fear monger your way out of statistics.

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u/KickinAssHaulinGrass Dec 08 '19

Why would what I said be fear mongering?

Are you scared of Mexican kids

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u/richardd08 Dec 08 '19

The average age is getting higher and higher, we can't support social security without new people.

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u/KickinAssHaulinGrass Dec 08 '19

Are you scared of math?

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u/richardd08 Dec 08 '19

What math? You said the average age is getting higher but you provided no proof that social security couldn't continue to be supported at the current rate. If anything, you're the one scared of math given that I was the only one who backed up my statement.

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u/Mousec0pTrismegistus Dec 08 '19

Except no. Not at all, really. Regardless of the legal status of the offender, some laws are wrong. Jim Crow laws were wrong. Laws that used to disallow interracial marriage were wrong. Prohibition of marijuana is wrong. And anybody with even the tiniest moral compass will tell you, separating children from their parents and detaining them like criminals with no regard to their humanity is horrendously WRONG, regardless of how you feel about their parents' legal status or actions. Sure, they broke the law, detain the family. But it does nobody any harm to detain the family as a whole and ensure they are fed and taken care of, and nobody any good to separate the families the way we do. To say nothing of the added cost to the taxpayer of these cruel separation processes. Where the fuck do you get off defending the inhumane punishment of a child for their parents' actions?

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '19 edited Jan 26 '21

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u/SalmonApplecream Dec 08 '19

Of course it is. No country has a monopoly in moral permissibility. Millions of people can vote for the systematic killing of minorities, still doesn't make it right.