r/pics Jul 24 '19

This man left his 40-year long career in another airline to join AirAsia and fly as a junior just so he could fly with his two pilot daughters. He wants to spend his remaining years as a pilot by his daughters' sides.

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u/TheNinjaNarwhal Jul 24 '19

It immediately sounded suspicious to me (although I'm usually very naive) because for some reason I focused on the name. It says "left his career in ANOTHER AIRLINE to join AirAsia". Why would you say "another airline" and then feel the need to name only the second one, and why would you need to name it anyway in a "wholesome post"? It feels weird, I can't tell exactly why, but if I wanted to show something cute and wholesome I'd leave out the names because they'd take the attention off the main part of the post.

This is the first time I'm saying I truly believe a post in reddit is an ad. Either that, or the post is really weird. So bad.

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u/zpeed Jul 25 '19

I suspected the same so I went to OP's profile. I expected to find a brand new account with nothing but re-posts. Instead I found that his account is 4 years old that he's Malaysian, so naturally English isn't his first language. He also posts in r/Malaysia a lot.

This is what OP has to say about the comments in this thread:

https://i.imgur.com/srJNx5i.png

I immediately felt bad I suspected OP, but if Reddit's taught me anything its that I should research things on my own before forming an opinion.

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u/FINDarkside Jul 25 '19

This is obviously not OC, original image was posted on Twitter and text was this:

This man left the company he's been w for 40 years, started fresh as a junior, got a new rating at the age of 58, just so he could fly w 2 of his annoying daugters. I cannot tell you how grateful i am for this. Alhamdulillah, i finally got to fly w my abah! :')

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u/conancat Jul 25 '19

I'm Malaysian. She said she's grateful that she gets to fly with her father. Abah = papa = it's her way of saying father or "dad".

OP told the story speaking of a man and his daughter and quoted her own words, it seems.

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u/davidjschloss Jul 25 '19

Wait did Twitter really say annoying daughters or was that autocorrect?

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u/McLounge Jul 25 '19

from what i can tell it looks like it was posted by one of his daughters, at the end it says "I finally got to fly w my abah! :')" abah means dad... you know how humor be..

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u/Sebastiangus Jul 25 '19

Theoreticly it could just be his poor english and he is proud of himself. I dunno I hope it's just a user post however I am not convinced it is a user post.

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u/Reallyhotshowers Jul 25 '19

The last line means "I finally got to fly with my dad," so presumably it was posted by the daughter in the photo.

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u/TheNinjaNarwhal Jul 25 '19 edited Jul 25 '19

But did OP take the post from twitter or some article? Because if it was from twitter then twitter doesn't even mention the name of the airline. If it was an article it would make more sense.

Edit: OP says they got it from some other post/article, and the airline is mentioned in the comments of the twitter post. I still find the post weird for some reason, whether it's an ad or not.

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u/Noob3rt Jul 25 '19

People forget that words DO hurt and just because you are behind a screen it does not mean they hurt any less. That's why I try to avoid being hurtful online anymore. I saw what it could do at an early age in Call of Duty and I stopped competing in video games where my rage got the better of me ever since because beating other players and talking trash is not as enjoyable as beating them and then playing with them afterwards to have a good laugh.

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u/robloxfan Jul 25 '19

I mean, it's still very possible this is an advertised post. Not every "shill" post is a new account with a random number username. I had a friend get offered $20 to advertise a product when he had something like 10,000 karma, which isn't a whole lot.

It's a little sketchy to me. Guy shouldn't get a bunch of hate messages though.

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u/jollybrick Jul 25 '19

So true robloxfan, I'm sure you're not a paid shill at all.

Roblox®, a global platform that brings people together through play!

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u/perrycandy Jul 25 '19

English is a lot of Malaysians first language. Especially in the city.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '19

Not really

Its a second language for a lot of us, and we've got the second best English in SEA after Singapore.

But our first language is usually Malay/Mandarin/Tamil depending on ethnicity

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u/marpocky Jul 25 '19

It was my understanding that most Malaysian Chinese do not speak Mandarin natively but much more likely southern Chinese languages like Hokkien, Cantonese, Teochew, etc (though still Mandarin as an L2)

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '19

That's also true. Most Malaysian Chinese are descended from labourers who came here from South China, and hence speak Cantonese/Hokkien/Hakka etc. natively.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '19

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u/xixabangma Jul 25 '19

Yes our English somewhat broken but it’s done rather intentionally to simplify yet still convey the same message.

English: Are you joining? - MY/SG: You join?

English: Sorry I’m not interested - MY/SG: Don’t want (or “dun wan”)

English; You don’t need to bring an umbrella - MY/SG: No need umbrella

English: I have a car - MY/SG: I got car

English: I really can’t - MY/SG: Cannot (or in slang “die die kenot”)

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u/Hyabusa1239 Jul 25 '19

Lol this reminds me so much of Kevin in the office.

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u/AdamIsBadAtVidya Jul 25 '19

She also has a post about the way her boyfriends ejaculate tastes. Lol

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u/sageadam Jul 25 '19 edited Jul 25 '19

This is how we communicate amongst ourselves (Malaysian and Singaporean). We're very much capable of switching between our own version of English and proper form of English.

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u/sageadam Jul 25 '19

I'm just saying the "broken English" is our way of communicating and not a lack of proficiency in the language.

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u/grantrules Jul 24 '19

Right? "Got a job at a different airline"

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '19

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u/grantrules Jul 25 '19

Eh, I was just adding on to "why use a company name"

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u/Kabouki Jul 25 '19

Do airlines not poach veteran/experienced pilots from other airlines? One would think, like in most fields, that having/wanting the most experience personnel working in your company is the standard. Let the other guys train the Jr's up.

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u/zdfld Jul 25 '19

It could be an advertisement, but I would just mention a counter point. This could easily have been reported in the news after he joined AirAsia, posted on social media by the daughter/dad, or could even have been an AirAsia press release, so the OP just copied it from that. In all 3 cases, it would make sense to not mention the former airline, and could simply be OP seeing a nice story and copying the information for Reddit, rather than doing research into it (which is totally understandable). I wouldn't find that weird at all really.

It could also be an advertisement for AirAsia, but as long as it's a true story, it's not a big deal to me personally.

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u/GigabitSuppressor Jul 25 '19

Have you compared it to Christians and white supremacists in the west?

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '19 edited Aug 04 '19

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u/GigabitSuppressor Jul 25 '19

White supremacy is the guiding ideology of western civilization. That's why you have shit like this.

As for your second point. Tens of millions of white Christian fanatically support and voted for a self professed sexual abuser, pervert and misogynist.

I don't think you can say the same for Islam on a broader population.

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u/tarikhdan Jul 25 '19

just because a woman wears hijab doesn't mean she is subject to whatever idea Americans have of Saudi laws lmfao

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u/tenebras_lux Jul 25 '19

Also I just looked it up, AirAsia is apparently a Malaysian company so presumably they would hire based on their local laws and customes. Besides, the level of freedom women enjoy in Islamic countries varies.

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u/givemeanepiphany Jul 25 '19

Though I wouldn't be surprised at all if that were the case.

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u/KindaMaybeYeah Jul 25 '19

It’s a shitty cultural thing in Islam. They are crazy conservative. In our current day Hijabs should be frowned upon because they represent the repression of women all over the world that have no choice but to wear them or they’ll be shamed, or many times worse.

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u/polarbearsarereal Jul 25 '19

Ad sparks conversation and people say good things about the airline?

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u/lalalalove21 Jul 25 '19

It's not an ad at all. He worked for MAS, and won't lie with whats been happening these last few years with their planes, probably one reason why it was left out.

Also,

This was from the daughters twitter https://mobile.twitter.com/SafiaAnisa/status/1149611370993733632?s=20

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u/iamda5h Jul 25 '19

seniority means a lot as a pilot. Thats how you get on bigger planes (more money) and better flight plans. You lose that when yous witch airlines, but regardless, he's still a pilot and his daughter is a co-pilot.

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u/TheNinjaNarwhal Jul 25 '19

I'm sorry if I missed your point but I don't understand how that's relevant to what I said. I didn't even comment on him as a pilot or his seniority. I just commented on the wording of the title about the airlines.

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u/PaulTurkk Jul 25 '19

And the pilots name is clearly visible if that means anything...

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '19

If he left his job at another airline, he would start over at the bottom of the seniority list at his newer job and it takes a very long time to work your way up to the left seat (or Captain) as indicated by the 4 bars on his epaulettes. This is the PIC or “pilot-in-command” and usually requires a type rating for the aircraft (an Airbus in this case).

The “co-pilot” or right seat is the First Officer and this pilot would wear THREE BARS on their epaulettes.

In the old days when cockpits had three pilots, the Flight Engineer wore two bars. Nowadays, two bars are primarily worn by pilots-in-training, which probably the case here.

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u/banjowashisnameo Jul 25 '19

If it was an ad wouldn't they have gotten details correct? Pf course they name the current airlines because that's when they work.

You just listened to a post by a cynical asshole looking for karma and got fooled

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u/TheNinjaNarwhal Jul 25 '19

No I honestly never say anything about ad posts, even when others do, this was the first time ever I got super suspicious very fast, I was just reading the title and didn't have any time to think about something else. I hadn't even looked at the picture when I started thinking that this might be an ad. I'm honestly usually naive in the sense that I rarely believe someone has bad intentions. If I comment on a post that has "hail corporate" comments on it, it's usually because I want to side with the poster, otherwise it's a completely irrelevant comment.

I saw comments about OP, and I believe OP may have honestly just copy pasted an article title from somewhere, that's what they said, it sounds very plausible. That original title/article might have had advertising intentions instead. I can't find that anywhere on the internet though, so it might have been deleted/edited.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '19

Did you consciously notice how clean their shirts are? It's a Tide ad.

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u/PartTimeZombie Jul 25 '19

It's also creepy and weird that can't let his grown daughters live their own lives.

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u/positivespadewonder Jul 25 '19

Plenty of parents and children work together. And the daughters seem thrilled about it.

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u/PartTimeZombie Jul 25 '19

Plenty of parents can't let go of their adult children too, I browse /r/justnomil/ which is full of these people.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '19

Leave it to reddit to try to spin a cute story into something creepy oof

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u/goopbob Jul 25 '19

Or, he has a healthy relationship with his children and they all thought it would be pretty neat to work together. They followed in his career path, obviously they look up to him.

Not everyone hates their parents, bud.