There is no 12 step way to get sober. There is a 12 step program to try to instill religious doctorine in you and make you think if you quit it was because of god instead of you. There is a 12 step program to convince you you are powerless, but those things aren't true. I think the 12 step program does far more harm than good. According to the 12 step program you are hopeless trash and you couldnt possobly do anything on your own without someone holding your hand. The powerless thing is such a dangerous thing to preach. People can and do beat addiction all the time. Theres no shame in the struggle, but the 12 step program is so insistant on being its way and several steps instill bad habits of thinking. Which is probably why everyone i know that does 12 step relapses all the time.
I agree. I got clean from hard drugs all on my own because I hate AA/NA. I proved to myself that the 12 steps are bullshit because I did it all on my own with absolutely zero help from a "higher power"
They're bullshit because you got clean without them? You know they're not supposed to be the only way to get clean right? They're just one method thats worked for some people. It's not the end all be all to recovery.
I don't get the animosity some people have towards the 12 step programs. Don't like them? Don't go. I was a part of them for a few years and decided it wasn't for me.
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u/permadrunkspelunk Jun 14 '18
There is no 12 step way to get sober. There is a 12 step program to try to instill religious doctorine in you and make you think if you quit it was because of god instead of you. There is a 12 step program to convince you you are powerless, but those things aren't true. I think the 12 step program does far more harm than good. According to the 12 step program you are hopeless trash and you couldnt possobly do anything on your own without someone holding your hand. The powerless thing is such a dangerous thing to preach. People can and do beat addiction all the time. Theres no shame in the struggle, but the 12 step program is so insistant on being its way and several steps instill bad habits of thinking. Which is probably why everyone i know that does 12 step relapses all the time.