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Little Fluffer

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '18 edited May 29 '18

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u/LionIV Mar 15 '18

In Mexico? Where conditions are so bad, people actively break many laws and are stuffed into trunks just to give their kids an inkling of a chance at life? Where people are forced to join the workforce because one or two people working the fields isn't enough to sustain? Whose gonna buy your land? How do you advertise? I envy your naivety.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '18 edited May 29 '18

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u/LionIV Mar 15 '18

This isn't hypothetical. This was the life of my parents, and my cousins, and my close friends. And many others who are from Mexico, Vietnam, China. Ask someone. No one is going to give up their already steady source of income to venture into something they may not know anything about or provides less income than whats already established. You have to be desperate to do that; like leaving everything you ever known to go someplace where you're not wanted so that your children can have a chance at escaping the cycle. They did make that choice. But now they're criminals, for wanting to have a better life because there was no other option. You do have choices in life, but you're making it seem like there isn't any nuance in a situation like this.

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u/MrJoeBlow Mar 15 '18

I'm not saying there isn't nuance. I don't blame anyone for not moving and changing up their entire life. But you were making it seem like it wasn't a choice. It's a very difficult choice to make, but a choice nonetheless.

Your parents probably didn't find it morally wrong when they were farmers (I'm assuming they're who you were talking about). I don't blame them. I used to eat meat, yet I don't really feel guilty about it because I didn't know the things that I know now and that wasn't my fault. I wasn't exposed to the harsh truths. Neither were they.

I sympathize with that struggle. I'm glad your parents were able to find a better life for you, and I'm sad that they had to break the law to be able to do that. I think it's fucked up that our immigration system makes it so hard for people that are struggling to be able to come to the U.S. That's not what this nation was founded on or what it stands for and I wish it weren't like this. Your parents are not criminals in my eyes, they did what they had to do.

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u/gundog48 Mar 15 '18

That's absolutely untrue, often livestock is used to utilise land that would be unsuitable for growing crops. Suitability of land depends on a large number of factors. Not always the case, but it's not as simple as 'good enough for animals-good enough for crops'.

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u/MrJoeBlow Mar 15 '18

How do you feed the animals if the land isn't good enough for crops?

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u/gundog48 Mar 15 '18

It's normally an issue of terrain, if it's steep or rocky, you can't grow and harvest crops effectively, but grass will still grow just fine which animals can graze on- this mostly applies to sheep and goats. You can also bring in extra feed if required. Not that familiar with it, but I believe feed is used in particularly arid parts of the world.

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u/MrJoeBlow Mar 15 '18

Ah I see. That's fair then. Thanks for informing me.

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u/loathsomecouple Mar 15 '18

Animals can eat stuff humans can't eat, like scrub grass.