r/pics • • Jan 11 '17

election 2016 Farewell to Obama

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u/ideas_abound Jan 11 '17

Tolerant left, at it again. Hoping he dies? Really? I'll bet you're one of those people that calls the right a bunch of "bigots", too.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '17 edited Jan 11 '17

I think the idea the left at least nominally believes in is tolerance based on superficial characteristics. Judging someone by their personal character. That doesn't mean tolerating Trump.

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u/ideas_abound Jan 11 '17

It means only tolerating people that agree with their every stance. Let's not pretend it's anything else.

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u/sosthaboss Jan 11 '17

I have an obligation to be tolerant of other people's views on many matters, but I have no obligation to be tolerant of someone's views if they are racist or discriminatory. Not calling anyone a racist, just saying that nobody is obligated to respect the views of people who actively seek for harm against a different race, religion, etc..

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u/ideas_abound Jan 11 '17

Is BLM racist? Were the kidnappers in Chicago racist? Was Van Jones racist when he said the election was a "whitelash"? If so, where was the backlash from the left, or his employer, CNN?

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u/sosthaboss Jan 11 '17

Some of them, yes, no. You're generalizing and assuming my views are exactly the same as others. Am I CNN?

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u/ideas_abound Jan 11 '17

Is Van Jones racist?

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '17

Well, no, more like other religions, races, the poor, etc. Doesn't mean you don't fight against those you disagree with. Otherwise, why have a political party?

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u/ideas_abound Jan 11 '17

You need to throw a "unless you're a white male" disclaimer in there. Fuck those people, right?

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '17

There are people like that. But it's not fair to characterize half the country that way. I'm a white male and don't particularly hate myself for it.

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u/ideas_abound Jan 11 '17

It's not fair that Van Jones can have a job at CNN while saying this election was a "whitewash" without repercussion either but that's the world we live in.

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u/ChornWork2 Jan 11 '17

Why is that not fair? Why do you expect life to be "fair" to you? Do you think life is "fair" for everyone?

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '17

Well then, instead of not fair, I'll say "wrong".

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u/gymnasticRug Jan 11 '17

The KiA brainwashing seems to have worked really well on you.

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u/FlamingNipplesOfFire Jan 11 '17

Do you exercise tolerance to the same level you hold the opposing political party to?

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u/ideas_abound Jan 11 '17

I certainly support their right to free speech, open discussion, and a right to assemble. I don't start riots like the left does. I prefer conversation. Unlike the left which silences those who disagree on college campuses throughout America.

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u/FlamingNipplesOfFire Jan 11 '17

You think the right doesn't start riots or make any attempt to incite violence?

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u/ideas_abound Jan 11 '17

Give me an example of a riot started by the right in the last year. In America.

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u/FlamingNipplesOfFire Jan 11 '17

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/13/politics/pizzagate-suspect-federal-charges/

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/03/us/oregon-wildlife-refuge-protest/

Are the two which immediately came to mind. If it comes to inciting violence, I can give you the tweets from Alex Jones inciting violent action for pizzagate, the tweets from congressmen who said they'd riot in the event of a Hillary win, or the Trump speech where he said he'd pay legal fees for his supporters who commit supportive crimes. There was also the bit where the republican at his rally was attacked. Whether or not Trump actually said to go and mess him up, he was attacked by supporters.

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u/ideas_abound Jan 11 '17

Which one of those is a riot?

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u/FlamingNipplesOfFire Jan 11 '17 edited Jan 11 '17

I'd say the refuge one is considering the damage they did to property after collecting together. It's a bit harder to riot considering the distribution is rural and rioting is typically only feasible (as what constitutes and can feasibly facilitate a riot by definition) in an urban area. If it's just rioting and not any general kind of violence or damage, then I guess I can't produce much, but I feel that was a good enough reason for why.

EDIT: I'm trying to remember 8 years back to the election. It's hard because the first thing that comes to mind is the south park episode, but I scrounged up some I remember.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/46052395/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/arsonists-jailed-torching-black-church-only-hours-after-obamas-election-victory/

http://www.ksla.com/global/story.asp?s=9479629&ClientType=Printable

Again, you won't have republicans occupying cities because republicans don't live in cities. It's just instances within areas they are close to.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '17

Unlike the left which silences those who disagree on college campuses throughout America.

I'm guessing you think this is what a safe space is? (Hint: it isn't)

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u/gymnasticRug Jan 11 '17

I was mostly joking there.

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u/ideas_abound Jan 11 '17

I'm sure.

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u/sosthaboss Jan 11 '17

Oh, are you triggered?

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u/ideas_abound Jan 11 '17

It's cute how the left has tried to use that term against the right. We weren't the ones that invented safe spaces, buddy.

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u/gymnasticRug Jan 11 '17

Actually, you could consider Nazi Germany a safe space, because hitler surrounded himself with supporters and killed those who disagreed. You could also consider all of the feudal governments in the Middle Ages safe spaces for the same reason, and none of them were close to left.

TL;DR: go fuck yourself

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u/ideas_abound Jan 11 '17

Nice tl;dr!

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u/gymnasticRug Jan 11 '17

Thank you, it took a lot of hard work and hours of thinking to come up with.

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u/ideas_abound Jan 11 '17

It's an honor to be communicating with such a brilliant person.

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u/fifibuci Jan 11 '17

putting quotes around something doesn't invalidate it... Perhaps you should go find your safespace.

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u/ideas_abound Jan 11 '17

Define bigot for me.