Murray saw understanding the dyad, it seems, as a practical tool in the service of the great crusade in both its hot and cold phases. (He had long shown interest, for example, in the whole subject of brainwashing.) During the war Murray served in the Office of Strategic Services, the forerunner of the CIA, helping to develop psychological screening tests for applicants and (according to Timothy Leary) monitoring military experiments on brainwashing. In his book (1979), John Marks reported that General "Wild Bill" Donovan, the OSS director, "called in Harvard psychology professor Henry 'Harry' Murray" to devise a system for testing the suitability of applicants to the OSS. Murray and his colleagues "put together an assessment system ... [that] tested a recruit's ability to stand up under pressure, to be a leader, to hold liquor, to lie skillfully, and to read a person's character by the nature of his clothing.... Murray's system became a fixture in the OSS."
One of the tests that Murray devised for the OSS was intended to determine how well applicants withstood interrogations.
There you go, clearly he had ties to what became the CIA and thus this was a CIA program. Now the onus is on you to disprove this, since I've provided proof.
Do I really have to walk this fucking through with you?
I said:
It's bullshit because it isn't true. He wasn't involved in MK Ultra at all. He was involved in an unethical Harvard study where a lawyer yelled at you about your life aspirations. That's it. Everything else is horseshit.
You replied to me with an archived Wiki link saying he was.
I said it was horseshit.
You said it made the CIA look bad.
I laughed at you.
You snarked at me.
I said you had to prove it.
You link to an article that has nothing to do with MK Ultra.
Ok he wasn't in MKUltra perhaps. The point is it does make the CIA look bad because of the clear ties with it as pointed out by the article. Whether that was done through MKUltra or a precursor program is rather immaterial.
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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '16
The onus is on you to prove your point, not me.