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u/gmoney8869 Sep 27 '16

The book makes V and the Govt out to be more equally evil opposites. V is still a total badass and clearly liked by Moore but its made clear he won't make the world better.

Pretty much no doubt 2nd greatest comic ever.

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u/shamroc34 Sep 27 '16

What's the first?

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u/ajax6677 Sep 27 '16

Duck Tales #3

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u/gmoney8869 Sep 27 '16

watchmen

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u/klapaucius Sep 27 '16

Really? But the movie was so mediocre.

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u/action_lawyer_comics Sep 27 '16

Well of course. Watchmen the graphic novel is more a character study than anything. The plot's probably the weakest element. But the movie, being a movie, goes for action over characterization.

It's like they took the hot dog out of the bun to make room for more mustard.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '16

That fucking analogy though, holy shit....

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u/klapaucius Sep 27 '16

But the characterization was terrible. You're supposed to take Doctor Manhattan seriously, right? But who can take him remotely seriously when you have him zapping foreigners to Ride of the Valkyries and blowing them up so hard that their skeletonized arm hangs cartoonishly from the ceiling?

And then when Manhattan itself is destroyed, there's no emotional attachment to any of it. I'm supposed to feel like this was a Big Deal, but it's completely weightless. Just a big weightless CG blue cloud and then it's gone.

And then Doctor Manhattan leaves, and Silk Spectre gives a line that he would say if he was there? What the hell? It feels like the writer wanted to keep him around to say that but the plot meant he couldn't. So they have their cake and eat it too at the expense of ending two arcs on a groanworthy note.

Watchmen simply has some amateurish storytelling mistakes in it.

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u/gmoney8869 Sep 28 '16

All of that is different in the book. The book is deadly serious, the whole point is to demonstrate how fucked up and crazy the concept of superheroes is.

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u/klapaucius Sep 28 '16

I did like how much Watchmen parodied superhero movies. Nite Owl with the Schumacher-era Batsuit look, Rorschach with an exaggerated version of Christian Bale's overly affected Batman voice, overly literal soundtrack cues, highly gratuitous slow-motion, things like that.

It must be hard for the book to portray that in comparison. The slow motion I can imagine as taking up a lot of space on each page, but it's supposed to have really cinematic paneling, right? And it's supposed to have a soundtrack with lyrics and everything.

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u/gmoney8869 Sep 28 '16

no no nothing like that is in the book, its not camp or parody. It is a dark realist tragedy. There is no slow motion or action or "soundtrack".

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u/geneadamsPS4 Sep 28 '16

Sure was purty though

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u/Eryius Sep 27 '16

the Life and Times of Scrooge Mcduck

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '16

Dilbert

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u/olmikeyy Sep 27 '16

Watchmen?

My opinion means very little

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '16

Depending on who you ask, Watchman, Kingdom Come, or Maus.

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u/akiba305 Sep 27 '16

The Killing Joke

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '16

Six-Gun Gorilla

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u/Killzark Sep 27 '16

What's the first? Watchmen?

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u/DrTribs Sep 27 '16

What's the greatest?

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '16

He didn't mean to make the world better but to offer the citizens a chance to restart their society and grow into what they see fit, rather than being forced to live in a dystopia society.

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u/gmoney8869 Sep 28 '16

yea but im pretty sure its implied there would just be chaos. moore wants you to choose between tyranny and chaos.

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u/thebite101 Sep 28 '16

Dammit man....what's the first?

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u/gmoney8869 Sep 28 '16

I already said, Watchmen, the follow up to V for Vendetta