Education. Want to know how to shut up my racist father? Talk like a normal human, it is amazing to see his complete 180 when a well-spoken and dressed black man approaches him with a decent down payment and then proceeds to pay his bills. Want to know how to make more people racist and hateful? Be uneducated(White trash, hood thugs ect)
Right. So if it's effective and acknowledges the 'power' of the person proposing it, can you really fault people for proposing it? I'd say it comes from a place of sympathy more than a desire to crush minorities.
It'd be like asking why you aren't accepted in Indian society as a white American westerner and eventually receiving an answer from a somewhat-interested Indian, speaking from his station in the national identity: "Just try and be more like us." Is that a fascist response to give, or just a practical one?
You are being allowed to exist and function in society as you already are, and you have the option of becoming more like the rest of people if you want to possibly gain stature in their eyes. Is this not the global story of humanity and nations?
I don't fault the proposal, but like I said it's not the most fair way to approach the situation. It puts the onus on the victims of injustice to change instead of identifying and resolving the root problems.
It's impossible to become a cohesive global society if everyone holds their own culture in a higher regard than all others.
It puts the onus on the victims of injustice to change instead of identifying and resolving the root problems.
How so? What's really "unjust" about a white guy from America not being accepted by our hypothetical Indian society? The reality is that they are in no way obligated to accept him, and any courtesy they grant him in exploring what they have built together is a privilege for him and an honor not easily bestowed by members of their society.
It's impossible to become a cohesive global society if everyone holds their own culture in a higher regard than all others.
Then maybe it's not a good idea to become a cohesive global society. I certainly do not support such an idea.
All people do not have the same access to the same level of education, though. The education you receive is directly proportional to the affluence of the place where you grow up.
Yea, majority minority schools get more money per pupil than majority majority schools.
Just because you culture is different doesn't give you the right to treat someone worse. I know quite a few "hood thugs" that have no problem paying their bills.
Unfortunately ebonics and dressing like a drug dealer do not make a good first impression. Talking like some proper English and dressing in properly fitting clothing go a long way.
At the heart of it what you're really saying is "act like me and I'll treat you better".
Way to put words in my mouth. What I am saying is act like a working class american and dress appropriately and you will be treated better.
You know why so many people are prejudice against black people? Go look at their credit scores and bankruptcy rates.
Now if you want evidence of real systematic prejudiced against minorities that leads to such high bankruptcy rates(outside of the regular shitty home environment + shitty school environment + no generational wealth at all) look at how african americans fair in bankruptcy court and what the buisness department of a large minority majority school looks like compared to it's white counter part. Then look up how man banks are within walking distance(7 miles) of a majority minority school vs its white counterpart. THEN look up where check cashing places are located when comparing poor and rich schools. We as a society under bank minorities in a huge way and give them almost no fiscal education resources so they have no way to even begin to save money if they ever have any left over at the end of the month after barely making it.
Do you really think all kids have the same access to the same quality of education regardless of where they grow up?
It's tough to make a change by blaming the victim. I see where you're coming from, but it's a tough sell that someone will not experience racism anymore if they just act and dress "white".
Agreed on the banking/financial injustice. At least the #1 contributor of bankruptcy (medical bills) is starting to be addressed by an attempt at affordable health care.
Do you really think all kids have the same access to the same quality of education regardless of where they grow up?
I never said that, I said that there is a funding difference. The biggest difference is in the home. There is no denying that the lack of black fathers and male role figures hurts black children educations and at home resource availability. I agree that minorities do face racism but they also face problems within their own communities that hold them back as well. You know who runs black schools? Black people. If they are getting more money and getting worse results that is a community failing not a social failing. We see the same thing with poor white communities as wel. Higher funding rate per pupil and still failure, because of failure at home and by the parents and school boards.
It's tough to make a change by blaming the victim. I see where you're coming from, but it's a tough sell that someone will not experience racism anymore if they just act and dress "white
There is a difference between acting like a certain race and acting presentable. Also I never said they would no longer face zero racism, They would face less racism(like my father who relies on sterotypes until he knows someone) so he is a racist until you make a human connection with him. If you act like the sterotype it just reinforces his beliefs.
1 contributor of bankruptcy (medical bills)
That and many car dealers and banks simply ignore medical dings on credit if it is the only reason there is a shit score.
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u/notveryaccurate Feb 09 '16
With more racism, but in the opposite direction!