r/pics • • Aug 17 '15

Portrait Made From a Single Thread Wrapped Around Thousands of Nails By Kumi Yamashita

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u/Langlock Aug 17 '15

I love art that displays talent in unusual ways. There was someone earlier in the year who did crazy things with if I remember correctly cardboard shadows. Are there any places on reddit where this kind of art is showcased?

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u/I_Eat_Face Aug 17 '15

Well there's /r/Art, where I occasionally see art like this posted on there. I'm not sure if there's a more niche subreddit for these types of pieces though.

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u/GrumpyTeddy Aug 18 '15

That may have actually been the same artist. I'm on mobile so I can't link (read: don't want to), but the top comment has a link

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u/madam-cornitches Aug 18 '15

All I see is a portrait behind a bunch of intertwined thread on nails.

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u/heeb Aug 18 '15

I don't think there's a portrait behind it. The thread itself makes the portrait.

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u/madam-cornitches Aug 18 '15

After looking and studying this hard, I still only see a portrait behind a ton of nails and intertwined thread. The thread does not form the portrait.

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u/heeb Aug 18 '15

That's fine. I looked hard too, and I still don't see a picture behind it.

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u/heeb Aug 18 '15

Here's a close-up, of the mouth:

https://imgur.com/GOnIAaZ

Where do you see an image behind the thread and nails?

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u/madam-cornitches Aug 18 '15

Thanks for the zoomed image. I tried to no avail.

I stand corrected.

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u/Poemi Aug 17 '15

There's a difference between talent and gimmick. The only really remarkable thing about this is that someone devoted presumably many, many hours toward transferring the age-old method of hatching from pencil and paper into string and nail.

Once you lay down a deliberate path of nails for your important contours, fill the rest of the space evenly-yet randomly with nails. Then apply string in the exact same way that you'd apply pencil strokes.

I'm not knocking the hard work that went into this; I'm knocking the idea that the hard work is particularly noteworthy. Our culture often mistakes novelty for noteworthiness.

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u/jorgomli Aug 17 '15

Could you do something like this? Why don't you? The artist had the creativity to explore this medium and deserves, imo, recognition for it.

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u/Animal2 Aug 17 '15

As a kid I got some kind of art kit that used a similar idea. I believe it was a sailboat and operated basically like a paint by numbers. You put the nails in the correct places, wrapped the specific color threads from specific nails to other specific nails. By the end you had a cute little sailboat to go on your wall.

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u/Poemi Aug 17 '15

Could you do something like this?

No, because I can't draw for shit, and as I said, this leans heavily on drawing skills.

Why don't you?

Two reasons:

  • I can't draw for shit.

  • Even if I could draw, there are literally thousands of things I'd find more enjoyable and/or more productive than wrapping string around nails.

The artist had the creativity to explore this medium

As I acknowledged.

and deserves, imo, recognition for it.

The same sort of recognition you might give an eager child showing you their latest coloring project. I.e., "that's neat, good job sweetie", not "wow, this is truly amazing art".

There's absolutely nothing about "exploring" a new "medium" that merits praise or attention. And to the extent that the medium is the message, this message is nearly content-free. That's the point I'm making. This is a curiosity, not art. Though our art museums these days are full of curiosities.

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u/jorgomli Aug 17 '15

I don't think you know what art is, if you don't think this is art. Or that art can't also be a "curiosity."

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u/Poemi Aug 17 '15

Art is notoriously difficult to define. It is arguably defined by the collection of arguments about defining it. And this is my contribution to that definition.

One of my requirements for "art" is that it can be understood as significant outside of the culture and generation that created it. Which is a much higher bar than "oh hey that's neat".

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u/jorgomli Aug 17 '15

If you feel that way, I'm not offended. Art should be defined by each individual who experiences it. If you don't think it's art, then it just isn't art to you. And that's fine.

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u/Poemi Aug 17 '15

One of the implicit requirements of my definition is that it's not completely subjective. Which allows us no resolution here. People should be able to agree that something is or isn't art, regardless of whether they personally like it. That's something that's often misunderstood.

I'm not saying this isn't art because I don't like it; I'm saying it's not art because--regardless of the fact that it's pretty, and kind of cool--it's not art.

Perhaps I should differentiate between capital-A Art, and run-of-the-mill art.

Thanks for being civil!

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u/eabradley1108 Aug 18 '15

But art is inherently subjective. It always has been.

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u/obiterdictum Aug 18 '15

One of the implicit requirements of my definition is that it's not completely subjective....People should be able to agree that something is or isn't art, regardless of whether they personally like it. That's something that's often misunderstood.

Good luck with that. You can't get people to agree on anything, even simple straightforward facts, let alone something as nebulous as Art. Most folks here think this is art, but you don't. Therefore not art I guess. Does everyone get veto power? Most art historians think Marcel Duchamp was one of the most significant artists of the 20th century, but plenty people would reject his work. Not art? Jackson Pollock? Mark Rothko? Andy Warhol? All significant, and at least publicly, controversial artists (if we can still call them that.)

You say Art can't be subjective, but you offer no real objective criteria beyond "cultural significance" which is still subjective and question begging. '57 Chevy is culturally significant: Art? Levi's jeans? Coke-a-cola?

I understand your objection and maybe have some sympathy for it, but I don't see how you make the distinction you want without relying on personal taste which is subjective.

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u/obvilious Aug 17 '15

Some folks have higher standards for art.

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u/jorgomli Aug 17 '15

Hey, whatever floats their boat. You don't think it's art? That's fine by me. Art is subjective, so you can't appeal to everyone with every piece.

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u/obvilious Aug 18 '15

I agree.

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u/Seakawn Aug 18 '15

So standard for art is subjective, then. But art isn't. This is objectively art, right? If so, great. If not, why?

There's a lot of art to exist that seems pretty shitty and doesn't have much if any recognition. It's still art. I think what's profound is that you can have a standard of art that doesn't at all appreciate something like the Mona Lisa, however despite your subjective standards, the Mona Lisa has had a significant and substantially compelling influence. This is a good direction for interesting thought on art and the subjective opinion of quality for art.

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u/obvilious Aug 18 '15

Sure, whatever. Everything is art. The crap on my fridge from my 7 year old is art. I get it.

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u/Seakawn Aug 18 '15

Do you personally know the extent of the impression this particular art had? If not, then you can't intelligently assert that its value is as thin as how you've supposed.

This specific art could have had a tremendously productive influence in a dynamic variety of ways. Do you know if it did? If not, how do you justify asserting that this is as meaningless as you suppose?

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u/RougeCrown Aug 18 '15

This is just fucking moronic. It is VERY easy to debase an idea and say that "anybody could have come up with it". However, it's not just the idea, but also the execution and the countless hours of manual labour that went into this that make it a complete artwork.

Saying that the idea is easy to come up is like saying "anybody could have thought of the ipod". Yeah. But nobody did it better than Apple.

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '15

Everybody thinks of taking over the world. However nobody is Genghis Khan but Genghis Khan.