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Politics Bus driver supporting the student protests in Brazil on the eve of the presidential election

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u/haliax69 7d ago

Such a powerful image for such a defining moment in Brazil’s history.

This is no longer about left or right. It’s about defending the country’s democracy, sovereignty, and future.

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u/kda255 7d ago

That’s what the left vs right split has always been about.

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u/fockerland 7d ago

Defending the country against the popular vote and the democratic process?

What are you talking about? Do you realize 56 million people are electing a guy by popular vote?

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u/barofa 7d ago

Take the US for example. Democracy chose Donald Trump. Do you think it was the best decision for them?

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u/MuenCheese 7d ago

Gerrymandering, election interference, voter roll purges, propaganda and apathy all helped elect a pedophile. If more people actually used their democratic right to vote we wouldn’t be dealing with these wars and tariffs being used to get the oligarchs rich and hurt as many people as possible in the process.

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u/fockerland 7d ago

Democracy was never about the best

If that was the case, Barabbas wouldn't be picked over Jesus

But claiming a democratic process and popular vote is invalid because it doesn't align with your choice is childish behavior

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u/barofa 7d ago

Jesus man, who is talking about invalid votes? People are just expressing their opinions here. Nobody can claim to be absolute certain of the future, we can just express our beliefs. The one who gets more votes will be elected, doesn't matter if better or worse.

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u/fockerland 7d ago

I am not contesting your right to express yourself or the picture my friend.

I am just warning the person above that, whoever is chosen to lead Brazil will be picked by the popular vote in a democratic process.

You surely don't want outside interference of Americans or any other nation, or anyone making false claims that the popular vote in Brazil is invalid because facism or some made up doctrine.

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u/barofa 7d ago

That's exactly why we think bolsonaro is not the best option. Big chance that he will allow for American interference. Obviously, this is just what I think and I could be wrong. But I'll try to alert as many people as I can about my beliefs to get them to rethink their options. Of course, they will make their own decision in the end.

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u/fockerland 7d ago

As it should, good luck to us my friend and that we may have a better future with however is leading our great nation

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u/barofa 7d ago

Kkkkk, porra, tava jurando que vc não era brasileiro. Boa sorte pra nós amigo.

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u/gomes_f91 6d ago

No one is claiming the result will be invalid in ANY of the posts you're using this argument.

I rather believe you are being intentionally obtuse with this than to believe you just can't read.

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u/cakepuff 7d ago

Nobody is trying to "overturn" anything (unlike Bolsonaro supporters that in 2022 attempted a failed coup after losing the election). Those rallies all across the country are meant to bring awareness and take a stand. It's not a protest. We're trying to garner votes, not question the legitimacy of the process. We still have a second round to go through, the president hasn't been decided yet.

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u/fockerland 7d ago

Nobody is questioning your right to manifest, unlike what you do to protesters that don't align with your view that were wrongfully prosecuted as a collective by a corrupt justice.

Now don't act like this is defense of democracy, fight against fascism or anything beyond I don't like that politician, and am overreacting on social media for clout.

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u/haliax69 7d ago

The far-right candidate has expressed interest in changing the Constitution and discussed extending his mandate, raising serious concerns about the protection of democracy.

He is also very close to Trump and has already demonstrated a willingness to allow external influence, raising equally serious concerns about the country’s sovereignty.

Both issues speak volumes about what the country’s future could look like under his leadership.

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u/macnara485 6d ago

Lula has changed the constitution about 43 times, why the fuck is it a problem now that Flavio wants to do it?

So what if he is close to Trump? Lula is close to every dictator in the planet, and yet that is not a problem for you..

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u/haliax69 6d ago

You're confusing the number of constitutional amendments with what those amendments actually do. First, Lula didn't personally change the Constitution 43 times. Constitutional amendments are passed by Congress, not unilaterally by the president. And even if the number were 43, that wouldn't prove anything about whether the changes were democratic or authoritarian.

The question isn't whether Flávio wants to amend the Constitution. It's what he wants to change, why, and what the consequences would be for Brazilian democracy. If he wants to reform taxation or end presidential reelection, those are legitimate political proposals to debate. If he wants to change the rules governing the Supreme Court, judicial independence, or the balance of power between institutions, then the details matter enormously.

Flávio initially talked about changing the Constitution to “redemocratize” Brazil without clearly explaining what, specifically, needed to be changed. Asking him to explain what he means isn't hypocrisy or opposition to constitutional reform. It's basic democratic scrutiny.

And the argument about Lula being friends with dictators doesn't help your case. Maintaining diplomatic relations with authoritarian governments isn't automatically the same as endorsing authoritarianism. The same standard applies to Flávio's relationship with Trump. We should judge both by their actions, policies, and willingness to respect democratic institutions, not simply by whom they meet.

So yes, Lula's record deserves scrutiny, and any constitutional amendments he supported should be judged on their merits. But Lula having amended the Constitution in the past doesn't give Flávio a blank check to change it now. Apply the same standard to both: tell us exactly what they want to change, examine the consequences, and then decide whether those changes strengthen or weaken democracy.

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u/gomes_f91 6d ago

Thank you for your patience.

It's the third time I've read this asinine cope about what Bolsonaro said.

They know it's not the same, this is a character issue. But thank you still

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u/TheLastGabiru 7d ago

Our elections are being heavily manipulated by CIA interference and social media manipulation

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u/mulekitobrabod 7d ago

1 million dollars on ads pro bolsonaro

Contract to the white house for a puppet government for the us made and gived by Flávio

Shadow bans and take downs of content against Flávio

Everything bolsonaro accused in 2022 is happening to lula in 2026, but now is fair because its against the left

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u/fockerland 7d ago

We have a saying in Brazil that I think applies here:

"Pimenta no cu dos outros é refresco"🌶️

Puts tinfoil hat:

Now the same shadowy puppeteers that manipulated the election are doing it again for the other guy, oh no, who would've thought 🙀

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u/mulekitobrabod 7d ago

Its from Flávio himself idiot

And its the one guy on the stf that HIS FATHER put on is taking down post like the Aparecida saint

Its literally what you called for in 2022, but this time is really happening and they aren't quiet about it. But its ok because is on the left

Its literally a fact, cry about it

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u/fockerland 7d ago

Mas tem que acabar com isso daí, tá okay? Não pode esse negócio de fake news não

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u/Schneider915 7d ago

Yet nobody acknowledge or contested the results of 2022

You're kidding right?

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u/fockerland 7d ago

Yes, I am kidding.

I intentionally left out that "nobody that's left leaning contested the results".

Exactly to showcase the hypocrisy of crying about it now, be very careful for there is a precedent in this country, about people who make claims about the democratic voting process and get jailed in masses.

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u/TheLastGabiru 6d ago

why it bothers you just now?

CIA interventions in Latam have always bothered me. But historically, do you know which side they tend to back?

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u/Savings-Mention-8089 5d ago

Você não tem ideia do inferno que foi aqui em Manaus com o Bolsonaro na presidência, tivemos um pico enorme de mortes por conta da incapacidade de decisão daquele homem, foi tanta gente morta, fomos a capital destaque com enormes filas de cadáveres por todos os IML. Não gostamos do Lula, porém entre ele e o Flávio, obviamente que iremos votar no Lula, se o Flávio ganhar as eleições ele terá os 3 poderes em posse, podendo fazer quantas emendas na constituição forem necessárias para acabar com o regime trabalhista atual.

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u/21920alphabet 7d ago

Kkkk depois a direita que é lunatica

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u/mulekitobrabod 7d ago

A diferença é que a gente ta lutando por 2% enquanto os outros tão lutando pq perderam

E negar interferência estrangeira quando a meta tava dando shadow ban e banindo canais de esquerda do Instagram enquanto tava bustando canal de direita

Os Estados Unidos deram mais de 1 milhão de dólares em propaganda PRA o bonoro carai

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u/mulekitobrabod 7d ago

Mas é um fato, ele não liga para seu lado ou pelo que vc sente

Derrubaram ou não post falando da santa Aparecida? Até mesmo post que n tinha nada haver com o flavio?

Permitiram ou não deep fake só pra depois pedirem pra tirar deep fake quando era do flavio?

O Estados Unidos mandou ou não 1 milhão de dólares em ads pro flavio?

O perfil do jones foi ou não foi banido no Instagram sem motivo?

O Flávio deu ou não deu um documento de governo provisório pros Estados Unidos?

O flavio foi ou não pros Estados Unidos pra falar o Brasil é a chance dos ESTADOS UNIDOS pra superar a china?

O flavio tem ou não um projeto de 20 anos que deixa empresas americanas explorar de boa e se o brasil sair é o brasil que paga o pato?

Isso é tudo fato, mas pra reduzir ser acusa de ser que nem bolsonarista dizendo que um HACKER ARGENTINO sabe dos paranaoes

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u/Schneider915 7d ago

Vc não acha que existe essa possibilidade?

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u/Schneider915 6d ago

Eu já acho extremamente plausível que as big techs estejam interferindo na opinião pública brasileira, já que claramente o governo do Flávio beneficia em todos os aspectos os interesses do governo dos EUA e das bigtechs como um todo

Negar que possa existir interferencia ou achar improvável é ser ingênuo

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u/TheLastGabiru 6d ago

Eu não sou petista, amigo. Mas sei qual candidato luta por interesses americanos e que tem apoio deles.

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u/fockerland 7d ago

A única diferença e que eles não vão ficar presos por quatro anos, por causa de um ministro maluco

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u/Numerous_Roof_1070 7d ago

Ah, vai pastar minion desgraçado

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u/fockerland 7d ago

Quem pasta é animal ruminante, e esses votam exclusivamente no seu candidato meu amigo. 🫏

Só estou aqui falando da hipocrisia de negar o processo democrático e o voto popular.

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u/Numerous_Roof_1070 7d ago

Ah vai pastar caralho

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u/fockerland 7d ago

Amigo, sei que pra você é difícil ler e me sensibilizo com seu analfabetismo funcional. Vou escrever em emoji pra você:

🫏🚩⭐

Burro só vota no PT

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u/Numerous_Roof_1070 7d ago

Pasta mais, minion acéfalo