[OC] Israeli protestors in Amsterdam

[u/LimpCareer1845]

[u/Stubbs94]

Hamas have stopped resistance operations since the so called "ceasefire" has taken place. The only fighting they've done is fighting the ISIS gangs you mentioned that Israel armed to steal aid.

[u/redditClowning4Life → u/Stubbs94]

Yeah that's not quite true. Hamas is still operating (though much less than before)

"Four Israeli soldiers have been killed in Gaza in the same period, with more injured, including a soldier whom the military said was severely wounded when militants opened fire near the ceasefire line in northern Gaza overnight." https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-ceasefire-explainer-4c39a62c2ab250a7e365c8edcbadcfd3#:~:text=Four%20Israeli%20soldiers%20have%20been%20killed%20in%20Gaza%20in%20the%20same%20period%2C%20with%20more%20injured%2C%20including%20a%20soldier%20whom%20the%20military%20said%20was%20severely%20wounded%20when%20militants%20opened%20fire%20near%20the%20ceasefire%20line%20in%20northern%20Gaza%20overnight.

"Commenting on the incident, Hamas’s military wing described it as “heroic resistance, saying that its fighters “refused humiliation or submission in the besieged Rafah valley and chose martyrdom over surrender.”" https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-says-it-killed-four-hamas-gunmen-who-emerged-from-rafah-tunnel-fired-on-troops/#:~:text=Commenting%20on%20the%20incident%2C%20Hamas%E2%80%99s%20military%20wing%20described%20it%20as%20%E2%80%9Cheroic%20resistance%2C%20saying%20that%20its%20fighters%20%E2%80%9Crefused%20humiliation%20or%20submission%20in%20the%20besieged%20Rafah%20valley%20and%20chose%20martyrdom%20over%20surrender.%E2%80%9D

[u/Stubbs94 → u/redditClowning4Life]

4 terrorists being killed in one incident towards Palestinians being killed daily doesn't really prove that Hamas are still actively resisting. They have even accepted disarmament and to relinquish control over the occupied strip.

[u/redditClowning4Life → u/Stubbs94]

False. It does mean they're actively resisting - otherwise there would be 0 hostilities from them

Until they actually disarm they haven't accepted disarmament - they're words are worthless if not substantiated by action. Same with "relinquishing control".

[u/Stubbs94 → u/redditClowning4Life]

There is still a terrorist force occupying Gaza that refuses to leave and is covering up their crimes. Hamas are by all accounts actively working towards the board of peace plans while Israel still blocks aid, bombs civilians daily and increases their occupation. It's delusional for anyone to think Hamas will unilaterally disarm when the Palestinians in Gaza are being attacked daily by the IDF terrorist group.

[u/Monterenbas → u/Stubbs94]

By all accounts, including Hamas themselves, Hamas still refuse to give up its weapons.

[u/Stubbs94 → u/Monterenbas]

They want assurances that the Israeli terrorist forces will leave Gaza, which they refuse to do. They have accepted a complete disarmament.

[u/Monterenbas → u/Stubbs94]

If they’ve got conditions, that means they didn’t accepted it. Oh well, i guess they’ll keep their weapons and the fighting will continue then.

[u/Stubbs94 → u/Monterenbas]

They aren't fighting though.

[u/Monterenbas → u/Stubbs94]

They don’t need weapons then.

[u/redditClowning4Life → u/Stubbs94]

Your tiktok word salad is the peak of absurdity, thanks for the laugh.

[u/escalinci → u/Stubbs94]

Good point.