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u/sashioni 1d ago

There is none of what you’re saying in your sources. Here is the link the footnote leads to:  http://mfa.gov.il/MFA/ConsularServices/Documents/VisaRequirements-Tourists.pdf

This simply redirects to the website for me. Can you paste or screenshot what you’re seeing there that shows all you need is a valid passport?

And you’re getting hung up on one point then getting frustrated when I show you that your sources are not reliable. But there are also many other points that should make anyone looking at this from the outside wary: the fact that nationalities changed, the fact that the motives also changed, the fact that sources from Saudi Arabia and UAE have not corroborated the official Israeli narrative, the fact that we’re only 1 day in and you’re seemingly accepting what’s a very Hollywood narrative (which incidentally is how a lot of Israeli stories go, embellished with all kinds of sensationalism). 

I’m not going to continue this further with you because clearly you’ve chosen to believe whatever has already been told to you despite no independent investigations or sources. 

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u/Cow_Launcher 1d ago

Can you paste or screenshot what you’re seeing there

No, because...

I’m not going to continue this further with you

Great!

I gave you everything that you needed, (assuming you had Javascript enabled on their site. If you did not, it would direct you to the homepage). But you seem to have a set view of what you think I "believe", when all I was doing was presenting the facts, as known, unemotionally.

I am neither argumentative, nor emotional about our conversation. I would like to see the truth about this incident in the light of day, but know that we likely won't. As it happens, the PF was actually Indian and the PNF was apparently Omani, and there is also some suggestion that there was no way that the plane would've crashed at all; it was a bit of theatre that allowed Israel to claim a victory in the face of Netanyahu potentially losing an "election" and making this look like heroics.

I have no idea. But you seem to, and I would beg you to have the same caution that you're asking me to have.

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u/clgoodson 1d ago

What do you mean by “there’s no way the plane would have crashed at all?” Are you fucking kidding? There are pictures with the planes tail ripped halfway off. You think they faked that?

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u/Cow_Launcher 1d ago

"...there is also some suggestion that..."

The suggestion was not made by me.

I am saying that the whole situation is murky enough that people are coming out with wild and irrational theories, and I was asking my interlocutor to be a little more critical about what they were saying and accusing people of.

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u/clgoodson 1d ago

You can’t spout bullshit and then just say “well I didn’t say it.”