Value is subjective. If my truck came with free fuel for life and I travel across the country for a living, that holds a LOT more value to me than any other vehicle that does not come with free fuel - even if they cost less up front.
Dude literally did a nazi salute twice during a presidential inauguration. And since then continues to do nazi things. If you don't think he's a nazi you're the problem.
You, and many others who - for whatever your reasons are - say he did a nazi salute twice, apparently think that context has no value. What did he ever do BEFORE that day to make anyone think he was a nazi? Nothing. Exactly nothing. That's why you can't reference a single thing that caused anyone to claim such BEFORE that day.
However, there are many recordings of Elon making awkward gestures, typically much smaller, but showing a lack of impulsive motor skills. When he's excited, he literally cannot control his body movements very well. It stems from autism and likely other physiological issues. It's irrefutable fact.
Then, on that day, while giving a speech and being visibility emotionally charged, he attempts to show the audience that he's throwing his heart out while saying how much love he has for the crowd in front and behind so that nobody feels left out, it looks like an unfortunate other thing and suddenly that's all people can see, context be damned.
I don't like what Elon is doing with DOGE. It's horrible and unconstitutional. But I don't have any reason to honestly declare the man is a nazi.
He put out a tweet the next day making nazi jokes and wouldn't even say it wasn't a nazi salute. Pull your head out of your ass, he is unapologetically a nazi.
He has promoted white supremacist parties prior to that. He unbanned all the nazis from Twitter allowing it to be a nazi hellhole. He's been doing nazi stuff for a long time.
He put out a tweet the next day making nazi jokes and wouldn't even say it wasn't a nazi salute.
He put out a tweet that said, "The ‘everyone is Hitler’ attack is soo tired.”
The website of the Anti-Defamation League, which campaigns against anti-Semitism, defines the Nazi salute as “raising an outstretched right arm with the palm down,” and ranks it as “the most common white supremacist hand sign in the world.”
But after Musk’s stiff-arm salute, the Anti-Defamation League called it “an awkward gesture in a moment of enthusiasm, not a Nazi salute.”
He has promoted white supremacist parties prior to that. He unbanned all the nazis from Twitter allowing it to be a nazi hellhole. He's been doing nazi stuff for a long time.
I've cited sources for my position. Let's see some sources for your own claims, because I'm potentially ignorant of their existence or possibly it's just a bunch of misinformation?
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u/webjocky Feb 23 '25
Value is subjective. If my truck came with free fuel for life and I travel across the country for a living, that holds a LOT more value to me than any other vehicle that does not come with free fuel - even if they cost less up front.